- From: Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:19:32 -0800
- To: Aaron M Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
- CC: "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <Thomas.Wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>, Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>, W3C WAI-PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, wai-xtech-request@w3.org
I think we can avoid loading the user with too many shortcut keys to worry about, but keeping things simple wherever possible. For example, most users don't know to use CTRL+TAB to switch between tab pages; or even if they know that, they would not use the keystroke too often. Introducing another subset of keystrokes may increase complexity of the user interface. Having said, I do agree with Tom that we should all be cooperating on standard keystroke approach. Regards, Victor Aaron M Leventhal wrote: > > > The battle between widgets and browser access to the keyboard is why > ... > You make it sound much more interesting than it really is! Maybe that > will help us get it addressed :) > > - Aaron > > > > *"Wlodkowski, Thomas" <Thomas.Wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>* > > 12/19/2007 12:24 PM > > > To > Aaron M Leventhal/Cambridge/IBM@IBMUS, "Jon Gunderson" > <jongund@uiuc.edu> > cc > "W3C WAI-PFWG" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, "W3C WAI-XTECH" > <wai-xtech@w3.org>, <wai-xtech-request@w3.org> > Subject > RE: Reserved keystrokes for borwsers and operating system functions > > > > > > > > > > The battle between widgets and browser access to the keyboard is why > the AXS library developed by Chris Blouch on my team now uses > Alt+Control+the letter key. > > To be honest, I'm not sure how the keyboard battle is resolved if > there isn't some path toward better cooperation between the widget and > browser. My company develops web apps that in many cases replace > software applications. I suspect consumers want the same or equivalent > behaviors when they're accessing email via a webmail app. Hopefully > this issue will spark greater participation in the DHTML Style Guide > working group that meets weekly on Tuesdays at noon. You can see the > widget-specific keyboard behaviors discussed thus far at: > _http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide_ > > Tom > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] *On > Behalf Of *Aaron M Leventhal* > Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:31 PM* > To:* Jon Gunderson* > Cc:* W3C WAI-PFWG; W3C WAI-XTECH; wai-xtech-request@w3.org* > Subject:* Re: Reserved keystrokes for borwsers and operating system > functions > > > I have an old list but it should be updated. Could be a great > resources if it was. > http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/ > > Anyway, in the case of Alt+left it didn't appear the grid really meant > to use it. Better to check always the modifier key and let it go if > it's not the key you're looking for. > > - Aaron > > > *Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>* > > 12/18/2007 03:27 PM > > > To > Aaron M Leventhal/Cambridge/IBM@IBMUS > cc > W3C WAI-PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, > wai-xtech-request@w3.org > Subject > Reserved keystrokes for borwsers and operating system functions > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron, > Is there a list of key combinations that ARIA (Web 2.0) applications > should never use? > > There are already some conflicts in the best practices, in that case > the best practices says the Widget should win. > > Are these combinations going to be OS and browser specific? > > Jon > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:53:54 -0500 > >From: Aaron M Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com> > >Subject: Re: Updated Illinois ARIA Examples > >To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu> > >Cc: W3C WAI-PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH > <wai-xtech@w3.org>, wai-xtech-request@w3.org > > > > I see a bug in the grid example. > > > > If I hit Alt+left or Alt+right to move in my browser > > history, it moves in the grid instead. The script is > > stealing those keystrokes instead of letting it go > > to the browser. > > You have to return true from your event handler if > > the key was not used. That lets it bubble to the > > next possible handler. > > > > - Aaron > > > > Jon Gunderson To W3C WAI-PFWG > > <jongund@uiuc.edu> <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, > > Sent by: W3C WAI-XTECH > > wai-xtech-request@w3.org <wai-xtech@w3.org> > > cc > > 12/17/2007 05:46 PM Subject Updated Illinois > > ARIA Examples > > > > > > I have update the following examples to use the > > non-namespaced version of the ARIA markup: > > > > Menubar > > http://test.cita.uiuc.edu/aria/menubar/ > > > > Grid > > http://test.cita.uiuc.edu/aria/grid/ > > > > Slider > > http://test.cita.uiuc.edu/aria/slider/ > > > > Slider > > http://test.cita.uiuc.edu/aria/slider/ > > > > Tab Panel > > http://test.cita.uiuc.edu/aria/tabpanel/ > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. > > Coordinator of Assistive Communication and > > Information Technology (DRES) > > > > WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ > > WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. > Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology (DRES) > > WWW: http://www.cita.uiuc.edu/ > WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/ > > >
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