- From: geoff freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:05:07 -0400
- To: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn@reef.com>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Hi, Kynn and everyone else:
Well, I stick by my original post: I prefer audio description to auditory
description. If you say "auditory description" to someone in the AD
industry, you'll get a weird look and hear "You mean *audio* description,"
in reply. Ian proposed using both terms in the UAAG guidelines ("An
auditory description (sometimes, "audio description")..."), something I am
not crazy about but can live with because the difference between the two is
rather fine and I don't think it's worth having a _huge_ discussion over it.
(Which is why I haven't kicked and screamed since Ian came up with that
compromise.) But since you've asked... given my druthers, I would rather
see the WAI use audio description, for all the reasons I've stated before:
it's an accepted term in the industry (reason enough right there) and has
been in steady use for a number of years, and it's already part of Section
508 and the SMIL 2.0 soon-to-be recommendation. If we use this term
consistently in all documents, the general public will, in fact, become
familiar with it and thus come to know what it means.
Geoff Freed
WGBH/NCAM
-----Original Message-----
From: Kynn Bartlett [mailto:kynn@reef.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:08 PM
To: geoff_freed@wgbh.org
Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org
Subject: The term "auditory description"
Hi, Geoff --
In March you wrote to the WAI UA working group about the use of the
term "auditory
description" instead of "audio description", as quoted here:
>GF:
>My only objection to this definition is the term itself. "Audio
>description" has become the industry's
> generic term for extra tracks of descriptive narration. It is used
>in Section 508; in SMIL 2.0, there's an
> element called systemAudioDesc, not systemAuditoryDesc, which is
>used to toggle descriptions on or
> off, if present. Thus, in the interest of conformity and clarity,
>I think you're better off replacing
> "auditory description" with "audio description".
>
>Geoff Freed
WGBH/NCAM
The term has been questioned on the WCAG working group list
as well, and I'd like to ask you for more information. Specifically,
I wrote the following recently as a way of describing how I would
approach the discrepancy:
>
>
>If there are two audiences here -- people with accessibility familiarity
>and people without -- it's important to look at not only whether one
>side would see it as "just wrong" but also -how- wrong that would be.
>
>For example, let's imagine a scenario which might or might not be
>true:
>
>* People who are familiar with the term "audio description" understand
> instantly what that means.
>
>* People not already familiar with the term might have a problem --
> "is it a description of the audio? (i.e. a transcript) or is it
> verbal audio track describing the video?" Is an "audio description"
> meant to benefit someone who can't hear, or someone who can't
> see?
>
>* An "auditory description" might be easier for those people who don't
> know "audio description" to understand, because it is somewhat less
> ambiguous.
>
>* In this scenario, the primary variable would be "how bad is it to
> use 'auditory description'?", for those users who know the term
> "audio description".
>
>* Which of the following reactions would someone who understand "audio
> description" have when encountering "auditory description":
>
> 1. Mental equivalency of the two terms, even without thinking about
> it.
> 2. "Auditory description? What the ****? I have no idea what
> means. *shrug*"
> 3. "Oh, those silly W3C people, using 'auditory' when they mean
> 'audio'. *giggle*"
> 4. "Huh, weird, they're calling it 'auditory', not 'audio' -- I
> guess they're catering to a dumber audience than me."
> 5. "Gosh, my pet peeve meter is tweaked whenever I see that. Ha,
> ha."
> 6. Unprintable outrage and unveiled scorn for the morons on the
> working group who printed such garbage.
> 7. Some other reaction.
>
>My guess is that reactions #1 or maybe #4 are the most common. However,
>if the use of "auditory" instead of "audio" would provoke reactions
>which lead to outright rejection of the documents in question, then
>clearly this needs to be given higher weight.
>
>Those are my thoughts and a sample hypothetical scenario.
Can you share your own thoughts on this topic, Geoff? I would like
to hear what
you have to say regarding this.
(FWIW, to my ears -- unaccustomed to multimedia accessibility issues -- the
term "auditory description" seems more explicit than "audio description",
but I
don't have your background and would like to benefit from your experience on
this topic. Thanks.)
--Kynn
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