RE: [Eval Videos] "some checks are as simple ..." (Video 2)

Hi Shadi,

Just double checking the script on the wiki (https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Video-Based_Resources/Evaluation_Introduction#Video_2:_Preliminary_Evaluation_.28.7E1.5_minutes.29), seq 6 the text is:

 Some checks are as simple as looking at the title of the web pages displayed in the browser window.

This was what caused me a problem. There is only one check that looks at the page title. Given that, the grammar of the sentence didn't really work. Looking back at my comment, it seems that I caused the confusion as I misquoted what was in the video. 

Regarding your suggested change, I might suggest a slight alternative based on the actual text:

 Some checks are simple. For example, looking at the title of the web page displayed in the browser window

This correctly and specifically summarises one of the checks. It also matches what is in the video animation. It also does not add any undue complexity.

I feel my misquote in review may have inadvertently caused a storm in a teacup! Sorry about that :)

Thanks

Kevin

Kevin White
Head of Digital Accessibility
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
> Sent: 24 November 2019 21:59
> To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>; White K (Kevin) <Kevin.White@gov.scot>
> Cc: wai-eo-editors@w3.org
> Subject: [Eval Videos] "some checks are as simple ..." (Video 2)
> 
> Hi Shawn, Kevin,
> 
> We need to find agreement on Video 2 following the Friday call.
> 
> Currently the narration says:
>   - “Some checks are as simple as looking at the text displayed in the browser
> window”
> 
> The suggested change is:
>   - “Some checks are simple. For example, looking at the text displayed in the
> browser window”
> 
> Are we comfortable with that change or does it still seem exaggerated?
> Maybe replace "looking" with something like "assessing" or such?
> 
> I would argue that beside "page title", also "resize text", "headings", and "labels"
> *can* be as simple as looking at the text displayed in the browser window. For
> example, if you visually don't see headings then it is usually an issue and also if the
> visual heading 'order' doesn't make sense then it is usually equally an issue -- you
> can do a lot of these checks without actually needing to look into the code.
> 
> Yet I don't want to seem over simplistic because maybe only the trained can spot
> such issues visually while others need to look at the code?
> 
> Thanks,
>    Shadi
> 
> --
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Accessibility Strategy and
> Technology Specialist Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) World Wide Web
> Consortium (W3C)
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