- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:40:02 +0100
- To: "Green, James" <jgreen@visa.com>, "Bakken, Brent" <brent.bakken@pearson.com>, "Halter, Adina" <adina_halter@cable.comcast.com>, wai-eo-editors <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
Hi James, Sorry if I was unclear. Your suggestion of removing "our world" has been addressed. It has been removed in the current online version already. The question is about also removing "That's the same for websites and apps". The counter suggestion to yours, is to make the sentence be: - "Also for websites and apps it is important to have colors with good contrast" The reason is to keep the terms "websites" and "apps" in there. Not sure that "sign, paper, or a screen" is helpful or confusing. Also, at this stage we can no longer make changes to the visuals / screen play. Only minor changes to the narration, so bear that in mind. How do you feel about the above suggested sentence? Many thanks, Shadi On 15.3.2016 20:31, Green, James wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks for the thoughtful consideration of my suggestion. :) > > To clarify the reason I suggested removing “the world” and “that’s the same for websites and apps” - I still worry people will get hung up on the visuals not being a real representation of our world. If the voice track talks about how "our world" can be frustrating with poor contrast but doesn’t show a realistic example of that, people may be distracted and question our analogy. > > So, my goal was to make the voice track place-agnostic so they could be talking about the web from the beginning (though not overtly) - even though the visuals start with the street signs to make the point that contrast matters, it becomes evident that we could have been talking about websites and apps all along. That said, to then say “That’s the same for websites and apps” seems very strange to me without the inclusion of “our world” in the sentence before (and I feel strongly that “our world” needs to come out of that first sentence). > > If you really want leave that second sentence in then I would reword it so it’s not referring to something (“our world”) no longer there… Maybe say: “whether it’s on a sign, paper, or a screen… (optional idea: have person holding a paper map with low contrast, but don’t focus on it too much) > > So… here is what I suggest: > > REMOVE PERIOD at end of 2 and CHANGE 3 to: whether it’s on a sign, paper, or a screen… > > > CURRENT TEXT for reference: > 1. There’s something about great design that allows it to go practically unnoticed... > 2. But it doesn’t take much to make things confusing and frustrating. Choosing colors with poor contrast makes navigating, reading, and interacting a real pain. > 3. That’s the same for websites and apps. Good design means sufficient contrast between foreground and background colors. > > > > > MODIFIED TEXT per my suggestion: > 1. There’s something about great design that allows it to go practically unnoticed... > 2. But it doesn’t take much to make things confusing and frustrating. Choosing colors with poor contrast makes navigating, reading, and interacting a real pain > 3. whether it’s on a sign, paper, or a screen, good design means sufficient contrast between foreground and background colors. > > > Regards, > James > > > > > On 3/14/16, 3:47 PM, "Shadi Abou-Zahra" <shadi@w3.org> wrote: > >> Hi James, all, >> >> Ref: https://github.com/w3c/wai-showcase-examples/pull/121/files >> >> James suggests to remove "That’s the same for websites and apps" from >> the narrative that currently reads: >> - "That’s the same for websites and apps. Good design means sufficient >> contrast between foreground and background colors." >> >> I don't feel strongly but we had some back and forth about it in the >> Task Force, so I want to get some broader perspectives before removal. >> >> My recollection is that this was to help transition from seeing the >> roadsigns change contrast and changing to the navigation app. It was >> pointed out that this transition may not be as evident, which is why >> this sentence was added by the Task Force. >> >> Brent and Adina, how do you feel about this suggestion? >> >> James, how strongly do you feel about it? >> >> Thanks, >> Shadi >> >> -- >> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ >> Activity Lead, WAI International Program Office >> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> -- Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ Activity Lead, WAI International Program Office W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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