Re: Tables Tutorial - EOWG tweaks

On 2 Mar 2015, at 11:26, Shawn Henry wrote:

> On 3/2/2015 1:06 PM, Eric Eggert wrote:
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> I have just applied the changes, with two changes as outlined below.
>
> Thanks!
>
> One comment below...
>
>>
>> On 27 Feb 2015, at 12:31, Shawn Henry wrote:
>>
>> [10:16] * yatil notes that he has updated the table tutorials with 
>> the wording of the tables cover page…
>>
>> Better! - except the first one seems to have been missed (and I think 
>> that's the most important one to clarify the image :).
>>
>> Also, I think tweaking the others as below would help significantly 
>> by decreasing the focus on the table categories:
>> * "<h>Tables with two headers</h> Tables with two headers have a 
>> simple row header and a simple column header."
>> -> <h>Tables with two headers</h> This page covers tables that have a 
>> simple row header and a simple column header.
>> * "<h>Tables with irregular headers</h> Tables with irregular headers 
>> have header cells that span multiple columns and/or rows."
>> -> <h>Tables with irregular headers</h> This page covers tables with 
>> header cells that span multiple columns and/or rows.
>> * "<h>Tables with multi-level headers</h> Tables with multi-level 
>> headers have multiple header cells associated per data cell."
>> -> <h>Tables with multi-level headers</h> This page covers tables 
>> that have multi-level header cells associated per data cell.
>>
>> Here I used the following sentence: “This page covers tables that 
>> have *multiple* header cells associated per data cell.”
>>
>> (We use this wording on the tables concepts page as well.)
>
> Yeah, I know, but it's not precise enough, especially out of context 
> with the others on the concepts page and without "multi-level" in the 
> same phrase as it is on the concepts page. All two header tables and 
> irregular tables have "multiple header cells associated per data 
> cell". This page covers "multi-level".
>
> I think it's fine to leave it as is on the concepts page, but I think 
> it needs to be clarified in the first sentence of the sub-page.
> Probably smoother as: "This page covers tables that have 
> multiple-level header cells associated per data cell."

You convinced me :-) I have changed it to multi-level. I think that 
people* could be confused by having both, multi-level and 
multiple-level.

Best, Eric

* Including me ;-)

>
> Cheers,
> ~Shawn
>
>
>>
>> Based on above, the first one would be:
>> <h>Tables with one header</h> This page covers tables that have with 
>> one header for rows <strong>or</strong> for columns.
>> or even more clear:
>> <h>Tables with one header</h> This page covers tables that have with 
>> one header for rows <strong>or</strong> one header for columns.
>> or to better differentiate it from the irregular and multi-level:
>> <h>Tables with one header</h> This page covers tables that have one 
>> simple header for rows <strong>or</strong> one simple header for 
>> columns.
>>
>> (I prefer the 2nd or 3rd option!)
>>
>> I have used the third option and changed the following sentence to 
>> flow better, see:
>> https://github.com/w3c/wai-tutorials/commit/f47bb3414f43fbcce874eb4c6db47c74e3f4398e
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Eric
>>
>> ~Shawn
>>
>> --
>>
>> Eric Eggert
>> Web Accessibility Specialist
>> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) at Wold Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>>




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Eric Eggert
Web Accessibility Specialist
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) at Wold Wide Web Consortium (W3C)