- From: Victoria Menezes Miller <menezesmiller@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:28:38 +0200
- To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
- Cc: "Arch, Andrew" <Andrew.Arch@finance.gov.au>, wai-eo-editors <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <BANLkTikdybGhRmtrMzy4X2hSwfNuENt9VA@mail.gmail.com>
Dear Shawn, Thanks very much for the changes, considerations and comments. Best, Vicki On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> wrote: > Thanks for the comments, Vicki. Replies below with "SLH:". > > With your permission, I am CCing the EO-Editors mailing list, which is > publicly archived and has few subscribers. If there are any points that you > would like input from EOWG, please feel free to send them to the main EOWG > list: w3c-wai-eo@w3.org > > (Andrew, a specific question for you below.) > > > On 6/7/2011 5:33 PM, Victoria Menezes Miller wrote: > >> Dear Shawn, >> >> I have gone through the "*Web Accessibility is Smart Business*". The >> presentation is excellent. >> I have the following comments and/or editorial suggestions: >> >> _Slide 7_ "Forrester Research, Inc." >> *Comment on Statistics*. >> I was wondering if there were any up-to-date statistics. >> Note: WHO will launch their world report on June 9, 2011. Perhaps, we >> might be able to get something out of it. >> http://www.who.int/disabilities/world_report/en/index.html >> > > SLH: We don't know of other similar studies. The issue is that this is not > simply statistics of people with disabilities, it is more broadly looking at > who benefits from accessible technology. I deleted " (which was 74.2 million > in the US in 2003)" so the date isn't as glaring anyway. Please do let us > know if you find updated studies or statistics that would be better than > this study showing 57%! > VM: Ok, noted. > > >> _Slide 9_ "Aging Population, 65%" >> >> *Comment on Statistics*. >> Whilst developed parts of the world are quoted, are there any statistics >> for possibly one developing nations stat? >> > > SLH: Hum, interesting point to consider. We currently have: "Note to > presenters: Customize with statistics relevant to your audience. Some other > statistics available from "Web Accessibility for Older Users" Presentation > available from www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/ " > > *Andrew*: Your thoughts on this point? > > > BTW, there seem to be some updated statistics at: >> http://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/unpp/panel_population.htm >> > > SLH: Do you suggest using updated stats from there? If so, could you > provide specific suggestions? > VM: Will look into it. > > >> _Slide 11_ "Graphics of different devices and situations" >> >> *Comment* >> Graphic 4 is not clear but I don't have another suggestion :( . >> *Editorial Suggestion for notes for Image 5* >> Accessible websites work better for people in temporary disability >> situations, for example, someone who has broken an arm or simply misplaced >> their reading glasses. >> > > SLH: Currently there is a photo of a person with a broken arm and the text > is: "Accessible websites work better for people who break their arms, lose > their glasses, or have other 'temporary disabilities'." I think there is > benefit to leaving break arm first to tie into the photo. Also, one could > say that misplacing glasses isn't a temporary disability - the low vision is > a permanent minor disability and the glasses are the assistive technology.. > If you want to say what you didn't like about the current sentence, I'm > happy to take an edit pass at it, or reconsider your suggestion. > VM: Don't worry, it's fine. > > >> _Slide 12_ "Improves usability for all" >> >> *Two editorial changes in second paragraph notes:* >> 1. "Power users" often work faster .. >> instead of "Power users after often work faster ..." >> 2. All of these guidelines make websites work better >> instead of "All of these guidelines makes website work better ..." >> > > SLH: Done. > VM: Txs > >> >> _Slide 14_ "Some basics" >> >> *Suggesion to change the wording in bullet point* >> "Don't cause seizures" >> Good and simple practical advice is given in this slide. The above >> mentioned bullet point does not quite fit in. How should the audience >> interpret "Don't cause seizures"? >> > > SLH: Changed to: "Don’t use content that causes seizures" (which is the > wording from http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/glance/ ) > > >> _Slide 19_ "OK... but what does it cost" >> >> Suggestion to change the note on cost. >> >> "When a development team has accessibility experience and good tools, >> there is basically no additional cost except for services such as >> captioning. If a site is being redesigned for compliance to accessibility, >> the cost will vary depending on the site and usually the amount will >> represent a small percentage of the overall website cost. >> /instead of:/ >> When a development team has accessibility experience and good tools, the >> cost of making new and redesigned websites accessible is often a small >> percentage of the overall website cost. >> > > SLH: Based on previous discussions in EOWG, people feel that there are > additional costs beyond services such as captioning, even with an > experiences team and good tools. Although the additional costs are small in > most cases, there are always some additional costs in development and > testing. Personally I'm a little uncomfortable with "compliance to > accessibility" -- I prefer the focus to be on accessible to people (and > compliance to standards is one way to demonstrate that). I'm happy to > reconsider other wording if you would like to suggest it. > VM: Txs for the explanation. > >> >> _Slide 20, 21_: >> >> I've attached some draft slides for your reflection. I could not come up >> with a good graphic myself. I found a few on I-stock as follows: >> By the way, the photos on i-stock are good and there is a large variety, >> plus they are not expensive. >> >> *Coins:* >> >> http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-16084189-golden-coins-isolated-on-white-background.php?st=1f40820 >> >> http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-15722813-money.php?st=fbfa719 >> >> *Money bags:* >> >> http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-6665401-global-finance.php?st=6a7c929 >> >> *Direct cost savings graphic:* >> >> http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-9054801-piggybanks-increasing-in-size-clipping-path-included.php?st=1f40820 >> >> *Suggested modification to slides. * >> - Keep the investment/time up/down graph indication >> > > SLH: Done for now. We'll see what EOWG thinks. > VM: Txs > > - Add a simple slide to cover the notes the speaker will have on the >> afore-mentioned slide. I thought it would be important to add something >> about what is "free" and available. That is always more enticing >> > > SLH: Interesting idea. You have under free: Online testing tools, W3C > resource material, Online web forums. I wonder what percentage of websites > can get adequate coverage from free online testing tools? My feeling is only > a small percentage; that most really need more robust tools. My experience > is that a large percentage of people are uncomfortable posting questions to > online forums. For one reason, their organization doesn't want to advertise > that they lack expertise. > > SLH: Given this is presentation is trying to "sell" accessibility, we > wanted to keep the costs discussion a minor point. We want to acknowledge > it, but not go into details. A presentation on managing accessibility could > go into more details. VM: Ok, txs > > > - "Return from Accessibility" : perhaps direct cost savings graphic from >> i-stock could fit in >> > > SLH: I've tried adding a money tree. Let's see how that works. :-) > > SLH: I'm not sure how compelling are Customer satisfaction and Professional > standard-compliant site to some audiences. I'm tempted to leave it to the > strongest and broadest two bullets on the slide itself: Increased revenue > and Direct cost savings; leave the detailed examples in the notes; and I've > amended the Notes to presenters to say: "Customize the bullet points and > examples based on the audience, for example, use different examples if most > of the audience works with educational institutions than if most work with > online retailers." I think I'll also add a pointer to > http://www.w3.org/WAI/bcase/fin for people to pick up more specific points > that are relevant to their situation. > VM: Ok > >> >> _Slide 23:_ Transcripts for audio >> >> *Suggestion:* >> Could an image with a caption be added to the space on the right? >> > > SLH: Do you mean an image of a video with caption? We could... however, > given the costs of captions and the goal of this presentation, I don't know > why we would want to? > VM: I thought you might want to add something on captions since it was > mentioned in the notes. But, I understand your reason for leaving the > graphic out. > >> >> _Slide 26_: OK! How do we do it? >> >> *Suggestion to note:* >> There is an opportunity for any investment >> instead of >> There is opportunity any investment... >> >> SLH: Fixed to: There is opportunity for investment in accessibility to > yield high returns. > VM: Txs > > _Slide 27_: >> >> *Suggestion to promote ATAG:* >> Can "(ATAG)" be added to the bullet point on authoring tools? >> > > SLH: Done. > VM: Txs > > Thanks again for your comments, Vicki! > > Kind regards, > ~Shawn >
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