- From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:07:31 +0200
- To: Andrew Arch <andrew@w3.org>
- CC: wai-eo-editors <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
Hi Andrew,
Andrew Arch wrote:
> Thanks Shadi - see inline below:
>
> Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> First of all, thank you for addressing my previous comments. I think
>> these changes are great.
>>
>> Please find below some additional minor comments on the Business Case
>> for your consideration:
>>
>> ## Overview
>> - validation error (simple ID name mismatch)
>
> Validated for me :)
OK, we are using different validation tools. Please see line 259:
- <a name="realted" id="related" shape="rect">
>> - s/The Web is increasingly an essential resource many aspects of
>> life/The Web is increasingly an essential resource in many aspects of
>> life (typo - forgot "in")
>
> Done - but used 'for' rather than 'in'
>
>> - consider a different word for "recoup" (not very common word)
>
> Retained for now - 'recoup' is a common EN business term. I considered
> 'recover' but subtly different and broader.
For me, the term "recoup" means making up for something that is lost.
Something more positive could be more motivating. Editor's discretion.
>> - s/so too do their business cases/so do their business cases
>
> Retained for now - it was LisaP's editorial suggestion which I think
> adds emphasis to the differences that arise. If SLH & SAZ insisit I
> _could_ accept changing this.
I'll leave this to you and Shawn as native speakers (and maybe others
too). It was difficult for me to read. Editor's discretion.
>> ## Social Factors
>> - s/including older people with age-related impairments/including
>> people with age-related functional limitations ("impairment"
>> unnecessary here)
>
> Was 'Done' - retained after EO discussion
> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/29-eo-minutes.html#item02
>
>> - s/To estimate how many people are affected by Web accessibility is
>> difficult/It is difficult to estimate how many people are affected by
>> Web accessibility (I personally think it is easier to read this way)
>
> Trying "Estimating how many people are affected by Web accessibility is
> difficult because ..."
Works better for me. Just curious what was the motivation for changing
the initial wording in the first place?
>> - s/Overlap with Design for Older Users/Overlap with Older Users Needs
>
> Done - based on follow-up emails where Shadi said "Don't want to reduce
> Web accessibility requirements to design alone. A lot of our findings
> relate to tools and services being inaccessible."
>
>> - consider "vision/hearing/physical/cognitive decline" rather than the
>> term "impairment" in the bullets of "Overlap with Design for Older
>> Users" (reduce use of the term (label) "impairment" where possible)
>
> Done - but after EO discussion should impairment be retained?
> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/29-eo-minutes.html#item02
I personally like these changes. We are talking about Web accessibility
guidelines addressing older peoples needs. These may not be necessarily
impairments that constitute a disability in the usual sense. Even very
mild vision or cognitive decline can be well assisted by a better level
of usability that is promoted by the Web accessibility guidelines.
Note: later on when we are talking about specific benefits and mapping
these to Success Criteria, then talking about the actual impairments as
per EO discussion seems more sensible (see below).
>> - s/The accessibility provisions that make the Web accessible provide
>> many benefits for people experiencing impairments due to the ageing
>> process/The accessibility provisions that make the Web accessible
>> provide many benefits for people experiencing impairments due to the
>> ageing process, even though they may not be regarded as having a
>> disability (we first say that "people with disabilities includes older
>> people with functional decline", then we say that "accessibility also
>> benefits people without disabilities including older people" -- trying
>> to qualify it here, and make the relationships very clear)
>
> Done - good suggestion
>
>> - s/Older people with age-related visual deterioration benefit
>> from/Older people with visual decline benefit from
>> - s/Older people with diminished fine motor control benefit from/Older
>> people with reduced fine motor control benefit from
>> - s/Older people with hearing loss benefit from/Older people with
>> hearing decline benefit from
>
> Done somewhat:
> - visual deterioration > deteriorating vision
> - diminished fine motor control > reduced dexterity
> - 'hearing loss' retained
Yes, I agree with this based on the EO discussion.
PS: note typo s/dexterityl/dexterity
>> - consider adding something about cognitive disabilities in
>> sub-section "Access for Older People", even if you just deffer to the
>> "Access for People with Low Literacy and People Not Fluent in the
>> Language" which has the relevant Success Criteria and Checkpoint mappings
>
> Done
Do we want to use "limitations" or "impairment" or "decline" here? I
vote for "decline". Also, consider the following change:
s/Older people with cognitive limitations will benefit from similar
aspects as those those with low literacy/Older people with cognitive
decline will benefit from similar aspects as people with low literacy
and people not fluent in the language.
Rationale:
- corrected "those those" in the sentence
- removed the term "those" to be inclusive
- added "people not fluent in language" to reflect the section title
and to avoid any myth about older people having lower literacy
>> ## Financial Factors
>> - validation error (simple ID name mismatch)
>
> Validated for me :)
Line 344:
- <a name="atl-format" id="alt-format" shape="rect">
>> - s/Testing design ideas and early prototypes with users with
>> disabilities and older users, and including assistive
>> technologies/Testing design ideas and early prototypes with users with
>> disabilities and older users, and with assistive technologies
>
> Done
Thanks for addressing my suggestions.
Best,
Shadi
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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ |
WAI International Program Office Activity Lead |
W3C Evaluation & Repair Tools Working Group Chair |
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