Re: [tools list] updated ...

Hi, Shadi,

Great to see Tool List evolving. I think it's gonna be *very* popular. Below are comments on the latest versions of the Search pages.

~ Shawn

both:

* High: It is not standard to use fieldset as a label for a group of checkboxes (or radio/option buttons), afaik. This could cause some problems with AT, as Andrew pointed out. (Sorry that I didn't note this before. :(

* Having a gray background under all the form area really helps. Suggest for now adding a plain black border. And list for later to fancy it up.

* In Guidelines options - Consider including the acronym WCAG with "Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0", probably at the beginning (even though that's not formally correct, it's probably much better usability)

* Flip the bits around in the  <h1> & titles around (to front load) so "List of Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools: Simple Search" becomes "Simple Search for List of Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools" (also for "Complete List of Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools"[1]
(fyi, we did this with the bcase docs, e.g., http://www.w3.org/WAI/bcase/soc.html) 

* Low: In Guidelines options - not sure about "US" abbreviation? should it be USA? or written out?

> Ref: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/tools/simple>

* High: Remove fieldsets, use plain text labels for checkboxes, probably ending in colons.

* High: I understood from the last EOWG discussion that there would be just the Language and the Guidelines options? I thought we decided that the Functionality was too difficult to understand and potentially confusing for the Simple Search.

* Also note that a *major* advantage to just having 2 options (rather than 3) is that the Search button can go above the fold,  to the right of the Language, under the Guidelines.

* Medium: Make the columns closer together, that is, have less space between the Languages and the Guidelines. This is important for people using screen magnification (in the current layout they could get lost in the white space in the center). (from EO IRC log: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/03-eo-irc.html#T14-31-40)

> Ref: <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/tools/advanced>

* High: In Guidelines options - Put WCAG at top in bold (like in Simple Search page)

* High: Remove fieldsets, use plain text labels for checkboxes, probably ending in colons.

* I thought we decided in the last EO telecon to use phrases instead of short labels? e.g. instead of "Support for Guidelines" something like "Checks for these guidelines:", and "Web Site Format" -> "Checks these Web formats:", and "Authoring Tool Integration" -> "Integrates with these authoring tools:", etc.

* I appreciate your attempt at grouping the options! After hearing the discussion in EO (which yielded no plausible suggestions for grouping) and seeing a pass at it, I think that any grouping is going to be too generic/arbitrary/non-specific to be useful. Specifically, seeing the group names in "Search Options" (orange links in box top right), I find them not at all useful; where as the previous listing of each option was very useful.

* Were you going to link from the options to descriptions in Selecting Tools?

* In Platform Integration options - Consider re-ordering so the most common ones are listed first

* I like how you got the Search buttons throughout & think the Back to Top is good; however, if they don't stay in future tweaks (e.g., changing grouping), I think that's OK, too.

* Low: Add space between the edge of the background gray box and internal stuff, e.g. fieldset borders.

Both, but way low: 

* If you do use fieldsets, it would be easier to read and look better if you added a space before and after the label, so the border doesn't run into the letters; however, I'm not sure if that would cause other problems. Also it looks nice if the items are lined up under the label, that is, they have the same left alignment.

[1] btw, what is the h1 & title of the page with results from a search?

Received on Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:48:28 UTC