- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:13:43 -0600
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http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html - DRAFT - SV_MEETING_TITLE 12 Feb 2009 See also: IRC log Attendees jeanne, AllanJ, kford, Mark_Hakkinen, JR, sharper Present Regrets Judy, Alan Chair: Jim Allan Scribe JR Contents • Topics 1. Survey Results 2. Lower the priority of point C in 3.83 to level AAA, creating a new point under 3.8. 3. Glossary Proposal - platform accessibility architecture 4. alert 5. alternative content 6. Animation 7. applet 8. application programming interface (API) 9. audio • Summary of Action Items ________________________________________ <scribe> scribe: JR <AllanJ> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090209/ Survey Results Lower the priority of point C in 3.83 to level AAA, creating a new point under 3.8. <jeanne> ACTION: JS to Update document to change the order of Guideline 1.1 and 1.2 as per the survey of http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090209/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-125 - Update document to change the order of Guideline 1.1 and 1.2 as per the survey of http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090209/ [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. JA: Basically moving "speech stress" to AAA ... The user can set the speech stress, overriding any values specified by the author <AllanJ> 3.8.5 Speech Stress: The user can set the speech stress (the height of "local peaks" in the intonation contour of the voice), overriding any values specified by the author (Level AAA) JS: Can this be done today? JA: I think yes in Jaws KF: Haven't heard of this JA: Isn't this the rising of voice at question mark? KF: OK <jeanne> ACTION: JS to update document 3.8.4 to move (c) to a new SC 3.8.5 to say"3.8.5 Speech Stress: The user can set the speech stress (the height of "local peaks" in the intonation contour of the voice), overriding any values specified by the author (Level AAA)" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-126 - Update document 3.8.4 to move (c) to a new SC 3.8.5 to say\"3.8.5 Speech Stress: The user can set the speech stress (the height of \"local peaks\" in the intonation contour of the voice), overriding any values specified by the author (Level AAA)\" [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. Glossary Proposal - platform accessibility architecture JA: Only point of contention is DOM sentence <AllanJ> JR: on some platform the accessibility API may not be rich enough, and AT assumes a DOM, it is closely related <AllanJ> JS: so, if no AAPI then must implement a DOM JR: No...just saying it supplements KF: Not disagreeing...just would say that maybe this sentence should go into the definition of DOM JS: If this is so important, doesn't it need to be in a success criteria somewhere JA: We do....reads from... JS: No in particular this point about the DOM JA: Reads from ... JS: What we are saying in the defintion is not clear in SC <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2009/UAAG20-20090121-ED/#principle-AT-access KF: We do make various mentions of this MH: OK with proposal KF: OK with me JA: OK let's keep it as is JS: To me it does not come across clearly in GL2 JA: Can you phrase an issue about this? JS: Yes <scribe> ACTION: JS to Use new defn of platform accessibility architecture [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-127 - Use new defn of platform accessibility architecture [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. alert <jeanne> issue: In the definition of platform accessibility architecture, the final sentence refers to the need for a DOM. Make sure this concept is clearly covered by Principle 2 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-32 - In the definition of platform accessibility architecture, the final sentence refers to the need for a DOM. Make sure this concept is clearly covered by Principle 2 ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/tracker/issues/32/edit . JR: Agree with comments JA: SHall we hjust use KFs phrase MH: My concern is that alerts are out of the contecxt of the primary content...status bar, popup etc ... Thought initial defn was too wide To make the user aware of information. User acknowledgement may or may not be required. JA: Also might be in address bar JR: Does alert refer to user agent developer alerts or author alerts <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to if this is that important, it needs to be in a SC, and not in a definition that people may never see. SH: Is there not another related definition ... Is there anything about confirmation dialogs? JR: There is also prompt- requiring info from user MH: I jhust felt there was a missing element when we talked about alert KF: Alert and prompt to me are the same thing MH: Alert is transitory KF: Can be ... Like spelling errors MH: "Server busy.Try again." KF: "Server busy, do you want to try again?" ... To me they are all alerts JA: I think we are agreed on the user may or may not need to be acknowledged SH: Alert is just highlighting ... Prompt is something that requires some interaction...generate input ... I'm wondering if "alert" should be used here JA: MH could you take action item? MH: Yes KF: What I hear is that we could really clarify alert+prompt at the same time <KFord> +1 for the direction Simon was heading. <scribe> ACTION: MH to Write a proposal encompassing for both alert and prompt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Created ACTION-128 - Write a proposal encompassing for both alert and prompt [on Markku Hakkinen - due 2009-02-19]. alternative content JS: "Equivalent" not really the right word JR: BTW I'm not stuck on on "equivalent alternative" KF: Don't like "equivalent alternative"...prefer "alternative content" JR: +1 MH: +1 SH: Are we saying alternative content could be anything? Like alt with random characters <AllanJ> +1 SH: It's not in any way an equivalent <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2009/UAAG20-20090121-ED/Overview.html#def-condition al-content KF: But the defn says "essentially the same function or purpose" so it can't just be garbage <AllanJ> JR: reads ATAG def Content that is used in place of other content that a person may not be able to access. An equivalent alternative fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. Examples include text alternatives for non-text content, captions for audio, audio descriptions for video, sign language for audio, media alternatives for time-based media. See WCAG for more information SH: +1 <AllanJ> Content that is used in place of other content that a person may not be able to access. Alternative content fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. Examples include text alternatives for non-text content, captions for audio, audio descriptions for video, sign language for audio, media alternatives for time-based media. See WCAG for more information <scribe> ACTION: JS to Use Alternative Content: > Content that is used in place of other content that a person may not be able to access. Alternative content fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. Examples include text alternatives for non-text content, captions for audio, audio descriptions for video, sign language for audio, media alternatives for time-based media.... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 - Use Alternative Content: > Content that is used in place of other content that a person may not be able to access. Alternative content fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. Examples include text alternatives for non-text content, captions for audio, audio descriptions for video, sign language for audio, media alternatives for time-based media.... [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: See WCAG for more information <scribe> ACTION: JR to Suggest to AUWG change "equivalent alternative" to "alternative content" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Created ACTION-130 - Suggest to AUWG change \"equivalent alternative\" to \"alternative content\" [on Jan Richards - due 2009-02-19]. Animation <scribe> ACTION: JS to Use Animation: Graphical content that is rendered such that it can automatically change over time, potentially giving the user a visual perception of movement. Examples include video, animated images, scrolling text, programmatic animation (e.g., moving or replacing rendered objects). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action07] <trackbot> Created ACTION-131 - Use Animation: Graphical content that is rendered such that it can automatically change over time, potentially giving the user a visual perception of movement. Examples include video, animated images, scrolling text, programmatic animation (e.g., moving or replacing rendered objects). [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. applet MH: Takes back answer - agrees to delete <scribe> ACTION: JS to Delete "Applet" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action08] <trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - Delete \"Applet\" [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. application programming interface (API) MH: Wants to capture the rest of the text of first paragraph somewhere JA: Maybe in "Understanding" doc MH: Or Techniques doc <AllanJ> issue: API include the following in techniques or understanding document. "Implementing APIs that are independent of a particular operating environment (as are the W3C DOM Level 2 specifications) may reduce implementation costs for multi-platform user agents and promote the development of multi-platform assistive technologies. Implementing conventional APIs for a particular operating... <trackbot> Created ISSUE-33 - API include the following in techniques or understanding document. \"Implementing APIs that are independent of a particular operating environment (as are the W3C DOM Level 2 specifications) may reduce implementation costs for multi-platform user agents and promote the development of multi-platform assistive technologies. Implementing conventional APIs for a particular operating... ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI <AllanJ> ...environment may reduce implementation costs for assistive technology developers who wish to interoperate with more than one piece of software running on that operating environment." <scribe> ACTION: JS to Use application programming interface (API): An application programming interface (API) defines how communication may take place between applications. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action09] <trackbot> Created ACTION-133 - Use application programming interface (API): An application programming interface (API) defines how communication may take place between applications. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. JA: I think its important to remove AT from being a user agent JR: Ask for ATAG2 defn to go into next weeks survey JA: OK <scribe> ACTION: JS to Add ATAG2 defn of Assistive Technology to survey [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action10] <trackbot> Created ACTION-134 - Add ATAG2 defn of Assistive Technology to survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-02-19]. audio MH: Would like something about live >From WCAG2: audio the technology of sound reproduction Note: Audio can be created synthetically (including speech synthesis), recorded from real world sounds, or both. MH: "live audio" or a combination <AllanJ> JR: understand about problems with captioning of live audio <AllanJ> MH: original definition is inadequate, need something about 'live' audio <mth> jim were you starting to speak when i hung up? <mth> give me 2 minuts <mth> minutes <AllanJ> ACTION: MH to propose definition of 'audio' to include 'live' audio [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action11] <trackbot> Created ACTION-135 - Propose definition of 'audio' to include 'live' audio [on Markku Hakkinen - due 2009-02-19]. <AllanJ> rrsagent: make minutes Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: JR to Suggest to AUWG change "equivalent alternative" to "alternative content" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Add ATAG2 defn of Assistive Technology to survey [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Delete "Applet" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action08] [NEW] ACTION: JS to update document 3.8.4 to move (c) to a new SC 3.8.5 to say"3.8.5 Speech Stress: The user can set the speech stress (the height of "local peaks" in the intonation contour of the voice), overriding any values specified by the author (Level AAA)" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Update document to change the order of Guideline 1.1 and 1.2 as per the survey of http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090209/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Use Alternative Content: > Content that is used in place of other content that a person may not be able to access. Alternative content fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. Examples include text alternatives for non-text content, captions for audio, audio descriptions for video, sign language for audio, media alternatives for time-based media.... [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Use Animation: Graphical content that is rendered such that it can automatically change over time, potentially giving the user a visual perception of movement. Examples include video, animated images, scrolling text, programmatic animation (e.g., moving or replacing rendered objects). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Use application programming interface (API): An application programming interface (API) defines how communication may take place between applications. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action09] [NEW] ACTION: JS to Use new defn of platform accessibility architecture [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: MH to propose definition of 'audio' to include 'live' audio [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action11] [NEW] ACTION: MH to Write a proposal encompassing for both alert and prompt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/02/12-ua-minutes.html#action04]
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