- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:36:49 -0500
- To: <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html Summary of Action Items ACTION: JA to rewrite 4.5.6 group, individual and total reset [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html#action03] ACTION: JS to update document with new text for 4.5.4: 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: The user can transfer preference settings across locations onto a compatible system. (Level AAA) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html#action02] ACTION: KF to draw up proposal for tracking Browser accessibility comparison features. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html#action01] Attendees Present Jeanne, kford, sharper, AllanJ, Kim, Greg Regrets JAN, Henny, Jan, Mark Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe allanj Contents * Topics 1. Logistics (Regrets, agenda requests, comments)? 2. User Agent Accessibility Status - Kelly 3. review 5/28 Meeting survey (no need to answer again) - * Summary of Action Items <trackbot> Date: 18 June 2009 <KFord> Chair_ Jim_Allan <KFord> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090527/ <KFord> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090602/ <KFord> working draft in July rrsgent, set logs public Logistics (Regrets, agenda requests, comments)? KF: how do we document current status of UA accessibility GL: suggest wikipedia browser features page <Greg> I suggest posting feature lists on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers User Agent Accessibility Status - Kelly GL: reviewing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers KF: already gathering this type of information for another project... ... send to the list, and discuss further ... keep this informal ... 1. get some data 2. proper representation WAI GL: could add columns to wikipedia page for additional accessibility items <sharper> SH: Intersection of UA / OS / AT and AJAX is at http://hcw-eprints.cs.man.ac.uk/70/1/Deliverable2.pdf <jeanne> ACTION: KF to draw up proposal for tracking Browser accessibility comparison features. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-199 - Draw up proposal for tracking Browser accessibility comparison features. [on Kelly Ford - due 2009-06-25]. <KFord> Looks like some good info from Simon. KP: need numbered links for speech browsing - very important ... wikipedia page is very important - getting information out to folks KF: should this be a requirement for all UA? GL: reccomendation (?) because it is so useful for mouse-impaired KF: requirement vs recommendation JS: level A, AA, AAA KF: where does it fit GL: how to determine difference between A, AA, AAA ... what is rigor for each. ... ISO - requirement - very important and feasible for browsers to implement otherwise it is recommendation ... also consider downsides, problems for other disability types, etc ... what is UAWG criteria JS: defined in WCAG, have been using that <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-levels-head SH: Adobe AIR - is it a user agent? ... looks like an application front end for specific web applications GL: same category as perl or C# runtime. platform to build other applications ... may use web facilities. it is software that provides user agent functionality issue: UA definition - Adobe AIR, Google Gears, UA behavior, stand alone web app that may or may not actually connect to the web. Is an html rendering tool that never goes on the web a user agent. <trackbot> Created ISSUE-37 - UA definition - Adobe AIR, Google Gears, UA behavior, stand alone web app that may or may not actually connect to the web. Is an html rendering tool that never goes on the web a user agent. ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/tracker/issues/37/edit . <Greg> I suggest we define UA as software that accesses resources over the World Wide Web and/or uses W3C technologies. review 5/28 Meeting survey (no need to answer again) - http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20090527/results <proposed> 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: Provide capability to use preference settings across locations on a compatible system. (Level AAA) GL: concern that preferences are not shared between location ... "transfer settings" seems more clear 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: Provide capability to transfer preference settings across locations on a compatible system. (Level AAA) 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: Provide capability to transfer preference settings across locations onto a compatible system. (Level AAA) 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: The user has the ability to transfer preference settings across locations onto a compatible system. (Level AAA) Resolution: 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: The user can transfer preference settings across locations onto a compatible system. (Level AAA) <jeanne> ACTION: JS to update document with new text for 4.5.4: 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: The user can transfer preference settings across locations onto a compatible system. (Level AAA) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-200 - Update document with new text for 4.5.4: 4.5.4 Portable Profiles: The user can transfer preference settings across locations onto a compatible system. (Level AAA) [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-06-25]. <scribe> <new> 4.5.6 Restore to default. The user can restore preference settings to their default values. (Level A) GL: Add "NOTE: Allowing the user to reset groups of related preference settings to their default values (e.g. reset keyboard shortcuts, reset colors and sizes of rendered content, etc.) is more valuable than merely providing the ability to reset all preference settings together, because some users will be unable to use the product without a few specific custom settings." ... Add "NOTE: The user must not be required to know or enter the default value." ... Add "4.5.x Restore defaults outside the UI: The user can adjust preference settings from outside the user agent user interface. NOTE: This allows the user to configure a product that would be inaccessible in its default state. EXAMPLE 1: A user agent ships with a separate utility for resetting or loading user preference settings. EXAMPLE 2: Holding down a modifier keys or specifying a... ... command-line switch when starting the user agent could force it to use the default settings, or previously used and known-good settings, or a specified user profile." 4.5.6 Restore to default. The user can restore preference settings to default values. (Level A) NOTE: Allowing the user to reset groups of related preference settings to their default values (e.g. reset keyboard shortcuts, reset colors and sizes of rendered content, etc.) is more valuable than merely providing the ability to reset all preference settings together, because some users will be unable to use the product without a few specific custom settings. The user must not be required to know or enter the default value. 4.5.6 Restore to default. The user can restore preference settings to default values. (Level A) NOTE 1: Allowing the user to reset groups of related preference settings to default values (e.g. reset keyboard shortcuts, reset colors and sizes of rendered content, etc.) is more valuable than merely providing the ability to reset all preference settings together, because some users will be unable to use the product without a few specific custom settings. Note 2: The user must not be required to know or enter the default value. GL: do UA's have this feature. how important is this? KP: important in training. Important for suers JA: important, settings are complex, how to get back to base. GL: pwd will always need some customization, reset groups KF: how do we define groups. GL: groups, recommendation...not rigorously testable. JS: must be testable if in success criteria KP: with speech, need to get back to know default, as away to move forward, when trying to add an interface on top of another JA: if default state is all boxes unchecked, then user can reset by unchecking all checked boxes KP: would be good to have both, change back individual settings, and big switch to reset all <scribe> ACTION: JA to rewrite 4.5.6 group, individual and total reset [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/18-ua-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-201 - Rewrite 4.5.6 group, individual and total reset [on Jim Allan - due 2009-06-25]. JA: there are many standards (ISO, ANSI) covering accessible applications on platforms, ... can UA refer to these as a base, and add UA specific success criteria for UA JS: ATAG took this route, success criteria is to follow applicable platform accessibilty requirements SH: problem. how can anyone test that anyone has followed application accessibility platform requirements. <Greg> Slight correction: ISO 9241-171 and ANSI 200.2 are not platform specific, but rather designed to be applicable to any software running on on any platform. <scribe> scribe: allanj Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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