- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:00:24 -0600
- To: WAU-ua <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
------------------------------------------------ http://www.w3.org/2006/01/19-ua-minutes.html Start of #ua buffer: Thu Jan 19 14:17:23 2006 *** #ua: jallan cklaws RRSAgent Zakim @JR *** #ua was created on Thu Jan 19 12:59:41 2006. JR: Regrets: David P. JR: Zakim, take up agendum 1 Document (WICD) Core 1.0, WICD Full 1.0" taken up [from Zakim: ... JR] JR: CL: Discussed with Rich JR: CL: How do you maintain UI consistency with different embedded objects... JR: CL: plus if its seamless user might not realize they are in a differnt type. JR: JA: SVG viewer experience, viewer couldn't be scaled JR: JA: Even though what's in the view can be expanded. JR: JA: Assume everyhting will generate DOM nodes? JR: CL: Is it one DOM or multiple? JR: CL: So far concentrated on keyboard issues. JR: CL: Also talked with Rich about how to expose info in SVG and MathML. JR: JR: The dream seems to be one harmonized experience jallan: cl: how is keyboard interaction harmonized between different tools JR: CL: But in my experience each part is made by someone different, so harmonization is difficult.. jallan: accesskey conflict, are a problem. jallan: User agent or AT must negotiate keybindings JR: CL: Early cases of Flash+HTML showed problems. JR: JR: These docs seemed to assume very strong UA support or highly harmonized UA+plugins JR: JA: UA guidelines assumed one UA (or very tightled harmonized) JR: CL: Another issue...voiceXML...related to interaction between voiceXML author's expectations and AT running on top. JR: JA: Also WebAPI group looking at conflicting API's. "Web-API" working group JR: CL: Considering accessibility API's? JR: JA: Prob. not. JR: CL: DO group used to look at things at lower level. *** JR has signed off IRC (Quit: JR). jallan: DOm issues: all document types have different DOM. In unix world us using the accessibility api to harmonize doms jallan: through ATK and ATSPI jallan: there is a bridge that bridges these 2 apis together to share information. *** JR has joined #ua. JR: I'm back. jallan: Linux world is working on building this harmonization. JR: JR: comments on these docs can be sent back as just a list of comments JR: JA: Which are our (UA) probs, which are "their" probs. JR: JA: e.g. security... JR: JR: Is there an accessibility angle to that? JR: JA: In reference framework, 2.3 Link Activation, behaviour of nested hyperlinks... JR: JA: in an SVG there could be links nested inside each other. JR: JA: What's the keyboard nav for that scenario? JR: CL: It's a bit like a map... JR: CL: There's a default link, but how do you get ot the others? JR: JR: I also think 6.3.1 Two Dimensional Focus Navigation (Flat, Graphical, Joystick) is an important area to look at JR: Action CL: Will ask Aaron to look through this from Firefox perspecitve * RRSAgent records action 1 JR: action JA: Will come up with a list of issues for discussion on list. * RRSAgent records action 2 JR: JR: Interactivity should be common throughout (ui of all containers should be the same) JR: JA: Object element in HTML is an example of uneven interactivity. JR: CL: root problem is the API's. JR: CL: Maybe one day W3C stuff will harmonize but external formats always a problem. JR: JR: Browsers are building in more native support... JR: CL: Still long way to go. But then again maybe SVG will be as full-featured as Flash someday. jallan: cl: java embedded within an html page, with accessibility API, then need Java Access bridge to share information. too many layers. JR: Zakim, close agendum 1 Zakim: agendum 1, Review the following last call documents: Compound Document by Reference Framework 1.0, Web Integration Compound Document (WICD) Core 1.0, WICD Full 1.0, closed Zakim: I see nothing remaining on the agenda Zakim: -[IBM] JR: RRSAgent, make minutes RRSAgent: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/19-ua-minutes.html JR *** cklaws has signed off IRC (Quit: cklaws). JR: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible RRSAgent: I have made the request, JR JR: http://www.w3.org/2006/01/19-ua-minutes.html Zakim: -Jan_Richards Zakim: -Jim_Allan Zakim: WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended Zakim: Attendees were Jan_Richards, [IBM], Jim_Allan jallan: rrsagent, make logs world-visible RRSAgent: I have made the request, jallan End of #ua buffer: Thu Jan 19 14:17:23 2006
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