- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 16:09:52 -0500
- To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>, jimallan@tsb1.tsbvi.edu
- Cc: WAU-ua <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Thanks for that Jon, I used a standard .htm page that had a doctype for xhtml transitional and changed the extension to .xhtml firefox just rendered the source. interesting will have to look at this further. Jim Allan, Webmaster & Statewide Technical Support Specialist Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ ---> Share to Win!! <--- -----Original Message----- From: Jon Gunderson [mailto:jongund@uiuc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:00 PM To: jimallan@tsbvi.edu Cc: WAU-ua Subject: RE: W3C User Agent Teleconference for 4 May 2006 Firefox will validate documents in certain modes and will report a validation error instead of typing to render the document. I am not sure of the details to trigger this mode, but I know if the author uses the extension .xhtml instead of .html is part of the trigger. Jon ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:05:38 -0500 >From: "Jim Allan" <allanj@tsbvi.edu> >Subject: RE: W3C User Agent Teleconference for 4 May 2006 >To: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com> >Cc: "WAU-ua" <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>, "Jan Richards" <jan.richards@utoronto.ca> > > >what is the context for this validation? It is not required by WCAG 2.0 or >by UAAG 1.0. User agents are not validating by nature or function. If they >were, the web would come to a crashing halt. Validating code is an authoring >responsibility and is voluntary. Tools can create valid code, but servers >will serve up whatever matches the filename requested, regardless of >validity of the code. Browsers will attempt to display/render (and repair) >whatever is served, regardless of the validity. Unless things change >dramatically, for the foreseeable future, I think user agents will remain >bugward compatible just to deal with tremendous amount of non-valid >including misuse of proper vocabulary and use of deprecated code. > >There are accessibility features that are required for valid code, such as >the 'alt' attribute being required for html 4.01 and xhtml 1.0 that provide >some benefit. There must be a value for 'alt', but is that information of >any use. even validity has its limitations. It still up to the author to >provide useful information, and hopefully in a valid way. > >Having run this around in my head, I am not sure of your point. Please help >me understand... > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Poehlman [mailto:david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com] >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:10 AM >To: Jim Allan >Cc: Jim Allan; WAU-ua; Jan Richards >Subject: Re: W3C User Agent Teleconference for 4 May 2006 > > >If you use depricated features, you cannot vallidate to published >grammars / current specifications. How does deprication impact >accessibility? ? For Instance, if I use border in html, I cannot >validate since it's been depricated. How does this benefit us? > >On May 2, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Jim Allan wrote: > > >what about validation? > >Jim Allan, Webmaster & Statewide Technical Support Specialist >Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired >1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 >voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ >---> Share to Win!! <--- > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Poehlman [mailto:david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com] >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:50 AM >To: Jim Allan >Cc: WAU-ua; Jan Richards >Subject: Re: W3C User Agent Teleconference for 4 May 2006 > > >anybody got a cattle prod to tickle me with around 1:55pm edt? > >I wonder if we should discuss the effects of vallidation on user agents? > >On May 2, 2006, at 8:50 AM, Jim Allan wrote: > > >W3C User Agent Teleconference for 4 May 2006 >------------------------------------------------------------- >Chair: Jim Allan >Date: Thursday, 27 April 2006 >Time: 2:00-3:00 pm Boston Local Time, USA (19:00-20:00 UTC/GMT) >Call-in: Zakim bridge at: +1-617-761-6200, code 8294# >IRC: sever: irc.w3.org, port: 6665, channel: #ua. >------------------------------------------------------------- > >Please send RSVP or additional agenda items to the list. > >Agenda > >WCAG 2.0 Related > > 1. WCAG 2.0 official last call > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/ > review conformance section > > 2. Review revision 2 UAAG - WCAG correlation table. > http://www.tsbvi.edu/technology/uawg/wcag2b.htm > > > 3. Review UAAG references/dependencies on WCAG 1.0 > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2006AprJun/0010.html > where should we go with this? > >Jim Allan, Webmaster & Statewide Technical Support Specialist >Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired >1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 >voice 512.206.9315 fax: 512.206.9264 http://www.tsbvi.edu/ >---> Share to Win!! <--- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D. Director of IT Accessibility Services Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES) and Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Disability Resources and Education Services (DRES) Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 Cell: (217) 714-6313 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/ WWW: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jongund/www/
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