- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:18:46 -0600
- To: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
We have lots of requirements for control, and we have a P1 requirement (checkpoint 12.2) that the documentation provide information on how to make these adjustments. Jon At 11:05 AM 4/3/2002 -0500, David Poehlman wrote: >if the default is something I cannot use, how do I know to adjust it? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org> >To: "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu> >Cc: <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org> >Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:15 AM >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Part II: Issues raised during Mac IE evaluation of >UAAG 1.0 > > >Jon Gunderson wrote: > > > > >> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:34:35 -0600 > >> To: "Ian B. Jacobs" <ij@w3.org> > >> From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu> > >> Subject: Re: Part II: Issues raised during Mac IE evaluation of UAAG >1.0 > >> > >> By requiring something other than color it will make the information > >> much more salient to the user. If I can't see colors or distinguish > >> them easily, I need something else to determine that this element is > >> different from the elements that are around it. > > >But note that the requirement is about the *default* highlight >and not the highlight mechanism in general. > >We don't have a requirement that says "Provide at least one >non-color highlight style." It's framed in terms of the default >style. Is there a (P1) reason why the default style can't be color >if there's an alternative mechanism? > >In checkpoint 10.3, we require that 5 values differ in presentation. >Suppose that someone could only use black and white. >That would mean that,f or example, the user agent could use black >text on white background for ordinary text, reverse video for >selection, and would need three other mechanisms for the other >three values (focus, fee links, recently visited links). This could >be done with lines (e.g., underline, boxes, and overlines). This >is really the extreme case where a visual user is only capable of >using black and white. Does this happen in practice? As soon as >the user can use a few more color combinations, then the requirement >for underlines and boxes goes away as a P1 requirement. > >I can't find any argument to justify the requirement as is since >it's tied to the *default* presentation. I think that the 5 values >can be rendered using color by default, but as long as the user can >override the colors, the user should be ok (at a P1 level). It's >possible that there should be a requirement for rendering styles >not based on foreground and background colors for those people who >can only use black, white, and a few more colors. If this is not >a real requirement, then I have a hard time justifying a P1 >requirement for styles other than colors. > >I note that browsers already provide non-color highlight mechanisms >for some of the values (e.g., links are underlined). But UA >and operating environment conventions do not force non-color >highlight mechanisms by default for all five values. And I don't >think we should require that they do. > > _ Ian > > >-- >Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs >Tel: +1 718 260-9447 Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services MC-574 College of Applied Life Studies University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua
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