- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:15:50 -0600
- To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Ian, I think the new working is clearer. Jon At 07:45 PM 1/6/2001 -0500, Ian Jacobs wrote: >Hello, > >Per my action item from the 30 November 2000 teleconference [1], >please consider this proposed change to checkpoint 2.1 to resolve >issue 394 [2]. The reviewer wrote: > > "I feel the description of 2.1 is too vague on exactly what portions > of the content are satisfied by providing a document source > view. You say it's good enough for some things, but not everything, > and give a few examples but no clear guidance on how to extrapolate > to other cases." > > >From the 29 Dec 2000 draft: > ><OLD 2.1> >2.1 Make all content available through the user interface. [P1] > > Note: Users must have access to the entire document object through > the user interface, including recognized equivalents, attributes, > style sheets, etc. This checkpoint does not require that all content > be available in every viewport. A document source view is an > important part of a solution for providing access to content, but is > not a sufficient solution on its own for all content. See guideline > 5 for more information about programmatic access to content. ></OLD 2.1> > >Comments and observations: > >1) If a document source view alone is not a sufficient solution, then >Notepad cannot conform to UAAG 1.0. (In any case, whether Notepad can >conform at P2 depends on whether plain text meets the requirements of >checkpoint 6.2.). I will assume for the moment that we don't want a >user agent that consists only of a source view to conform. > >2) I think that 2.1 needs to state clearly that: > > a) Most content will be used as rendered according to specification. > This means that in general, users will not read CSS style sheets > or scripts, but will experience their effects after processing. > > b) 2.1 also requires a source view for viewing unprocessed content, > because there are cases where that is the only way for the user > to get information. > >3) It is possible to claim conformance for a user agent that doesn't >feature a source view in conjunction with Notepad. [I don't mean to >pick on Notepad <grin> - I mean any source-viewing tool here.] There >is no requirement in UAAG 1.0 that the two pieces of software must be >"integrated" to satisfy the requirements of the document. > >So, I propose making the document source view requirement more >explicit in the checkpoint: > ><NEW 2.1> >2.1 Make all content available through the user interface. >Offer a document source view in addition to other views. [P1] > > Note: The user must have access to the entire document object > (including recognized equivalents, attributes, style sheets, etc.) > through the user interface. In most cases, the user views content > (markup, style sheets, scripts, etc.) after it has been processed. > A source view is required so that, as a last resort, the user may > consult the source when content is not accessible through any > other views. A document source view alone does not satisfy this > checkpoint. This checkpoint does not require that all content be > available in every viewport. See guideline 5 for more information > about programmatic access to content. ></NEW 2.1> > > - Ian > >[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000OctDec/0364 >[2] http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#394 >[3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-UAAG10-20001229/ > >-- >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs >Tel: +1 831 457-2842 >Cell: +1 917 450-8783 Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services MC-574 College of Applied Life Studies University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: (217) 244-5870 Fax: (217) 333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua
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