- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 15:32:48 -0600
- To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Attendance
Chair: Jon Gunderson
Scribe: Ian Jacobs
RSVP Present:
David Poehlman
Charles McCathieNevile
Gregory J. Rosmaita
Hans Riesebos
Mickey Quenzer
Harvey Bingham
Eric Hansen
Mark Novak
Marja-Riitta Koivunen
Rich Schwerdtfeger
Dick Brown
Regrets:
Kitch Barnicle
Absent:
Denis Anson
Jim Allan
Action Items
Open Action Items
1.IJ: Add rationale to Checkpoint 1.5: if you're deaf blind you might
need this (Braille display).
2.CMN: Suggest some techniques related to the good bits of the DOM Level
2 event module (related to checkpoint on notification 5.4).
New Action Items
1.IJ: Put up meeting page for FTF meeting 10-11 April 2000
2.IJ: For checkpoint 4.16 add to definition of Configure that users
should be able to save settings.
3.IJ: Send proposal to clarify checkpoint 4.16 today
4.IJ: For checkpoint 5.1, add a reference to the XHTML Recommendation
5.IJ: For checkpoint 5.1, add a technique to take into DOMs defined by
other specifications (e.g., SVG).
6.IJ: For checkpoint 6.2, fix bug and explain what a W3C Rec is in the
techniques document
7.IJ: For checkpoint 9.4, change "portion" to "proportion"
8.IJ: For checkpoint 10.4, add "in" a profile.
9.IJ: Add something to document section about documentation with the
product or available elsewhere. (in repsonse to GR concerns)
Completed Action Items
1.IJ: Split checkpoint 5.1 (28 January Draft) into read and UI write as
stated in minutes
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/CR-UAAG10-20000308/
2.IJ: Add a cross-reference from 2.1 to 5.1 and say in 5.1 that this is
a special case of 2.1
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/CR-UAAG10-20000308/
3.IJ: Add techniques to checkpoint 7.2 for synchronous multi-media
presentation (space and time)
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/CR-UAAG10-20000308/
4.IJ: Ensure that techniques for checkpoint 1.5 talk about using status
bar to display message
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/CR-UAAG10-20000308/
5.IJ: Incorporate proposal for checkpoint 1.5 from minutes
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/CR-UAAG10-20000308/
6.IJ: Update the document based on todays resolutions on 9 March Telecon
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/CR-UAAG10-20000308/
7.DB: Ask IE Team about publication of review of IE 5 and Pri 1 checkpoints
Discontinued
8.DP: Send NN profile info
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JanMar/0460.html
9.JA: Rewrite techniques for 3.3
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JanMar/0482.html
10. MR: Review techniques for topic 3.1 (Multi-media)
Discontinued
11. MR: Review techniques for Guideline 4 (Multi-media)
Discontinued
Minutes
Next meeting: 16 March
Agenda [1]
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JanMar/0454.html
1) Review of Open Action Items
IJ All done except maybe number 7.
1.IJ: Split checkpoint 5.1 (28 January Draft) into read and UI write as
stated in minutes
2.IJ: Add a cross-reference from 2.1 to 5.1 and say in 5.1 that this is a
special case of 2.1
3.IJ: Add techniques to checkpoint 7.2 for synchronous multi-media
presentation (space and time)
4.IJ: Ensure that techniques for checkpoint 1.5 talk about using status bar
to display message
5.IJ: Incorporate proposal for checkpoint 1.5 from minutes
6.IJ: Update the document based on todays resolutions on 9 March Telecon
7.IJ: Add rationale to Checkpoint 1.5: if you're deaf blind you might need
this (Braille display).
Status: Not done.
8.CMN: Suggest some techniques related to the good bits of the DOM Level 2
event module (related to checkpoint on notification 5.4).
9.DB: Ask IE Team about publication of review of IE 5 and Pri 1 checkpoints
Status: Dropped.
10.DP: Send NN profile info.
Status: Done.
11.JA: Rewrite techniques for 3.3 (see minutes)
Status: Dropped.
12.MR: Review techniques for topic 3.1 (Multi-media)
Status: Dropped.
13.MR: Review techniques for Guideline 4 (Multi-media)
Status: Dropped.
2) Re: ftf.
IJ: If there are no objections to going to PR, we'll have a face-to-face in
New Jersey 10/11 April.
Action IJ: Put up meeting page for ftf.
3) Ian summary of where we are in the PR process.
4) Review of list of changes:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/wai-ua-wd-changes.html
EH: Comments on word "automatic" in 2.3. Is this necessary?
JG: My main concern is that people understand that the UA pauses itself.
EH: Ok.
HB: What about breaking sync?
CMN: There are cases when you can't do anything about it, e.g., real world
events.
HB: What about auction events?
CMN: You can't slow down the real world. The requirement doesn't apply.
GR: Auction houses notify through color changes <frown> critical events.
Checkpoint 2.6
a) Added collated text transcript
b) Moved note to checkpoint, added "author-supplied" synch cues.
MK: Sounds ok to me.
MQ: What about adding the word "indexing"?
HB: Indexing in the sense of marking time?
MQ: Marking time.
Checkpoint 4.7:
MK, EH: Ok.
4.16: Allow the user to configure viewports, prompts, and windows opened on
user agent initiation.
IJ: We could harmonize wording with that of 9.2. Use "not explicitly done
by the user."
DP, CMN: Yes,
GR: I think that the focus is to allow the user to configure whether or not
the UA. "Allow the user to configure whether the user agent will
automatically open a
viewport, prompt, or window.
EH: That's a new requirement.
CMN: There are other configuration issues.
GR: It's one thing to control the size/position of something once created
and another to talk about suppressing the creation.
IJ: As I recall, we agreed in Austin to put all of it in 4.16.
CMN: I agree with Gregory - there are two separate requirements.
GR: I propose to split the checkpoint:
a) Allow the user to configure the visual rendering.
b) Allow the user to configure alert mechanisms used on opening.
c) Respect user settings when opening windows.
IJ: Sounds like three:
a) Suppress spawning AND/OR prevent focus shifting.
b) Configure alert of spawning.
c) Style the user interface.
IJ: I don't think "respect user settings" get us much.
Action IJ: Add to definition of Configure that users should be able to save
settings.
JG: How does all this relate to focus changes (4.15)?
IJ: Why are spawned windows an issue if there's no focus change and you're
notified?
GR: Yes, 4.15 and 4.16 are related.
RESOLVED:
1) MOve note after 4.16 to 4.16 techniques with some clarification.
2) Link from 4.16 techniques to 4.15 techs.
3) Reword 4.16.
Action Ian: Send proposal to list to clarify.
Checkpoint 5.1
Action IJ: Add a reference to the XHTML Recommendation.
Action IJ: For 5.1, add a technique to take into DOMs defined by other
specifications (e.g., SVG). ------
Checkpoint 5.8:
HR: Ok
RS: Ok.
Checkpoint 6.2:
Bug: Ian forgot to add "available"
Action IJ:
- FIx bug
- Explain what a W3C Rec is in the techniques document.
Checkpoint 8.4:
Group: Ok.
Checkpoint 9.4:
Action IJ: change "portion" to "proportion"
Checkpoint 10.7:
Action Ian: Add "in" a profile.
Other comments
CMN: Is minority objection propagated?
IJ: Yes.
GR: In the definition of documentation, it doesn't talk about updates.
IJ: That's in 1.2.
GR: Things that are supplemental, but provided by the vendor.
Action IJ: Add something about with the product or available elsewhere.
GO TO PR?
IJ: Any objections to going to PR?
Group: None.
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