- From: Denis Anson <danson@miseri.edu>
- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:10:49 -0500
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>, "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>
- Cc: "User Agent Guidelines Emailing List" <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Gregory, I would agree with Ian on this one. If the document specifies what must be done, and uses as examples those who have done it well, you reward compliance, and do not punish non-compliance. And any behaviorist will tell you that punishment is not a good behavior change strategy, since it doesn't tell the learner what should be done. Instead, we can say that IE does this well, HomePage Reader does this well, etc. If NN folks ask why they aren't mentioned, then we say, "Well, we didn't find examples where NN was the exemplar." You don't have to slap them down in front of everyone, just don't praise them for their bad behavior. Denis Anson, MS, OTR Assistant Professor College Misericordia 301 Lake St. Dallas, PA 18612 Member since 1989: RESNA: An International Association of Assistive Techology Professionals Website: http://www.resna.org RESNA ANNUAL CONFERENCE -- "RESNA 2000" ORLANDO, FL, JUNE 28 -- July 2, 2000 -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Gregory J. Rosmaita Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 10:04 AM To: Ian Jacobs Cc: User Agent Guidelines Emailing List Subject: Re: netscape keybindings section aloha, ian! ian wrote, quote I don't think we should indicate that there are problems with NN in the Techniques doc. unquote we are not highlighting NN's problems, merely documenting the keyboard support of a specific release of NN -- if we fail to address the keyboard support of NN's help system -- something which is required by the UAGL -- then we have (a) failed to address keyboard support in a specific version of NN, and (b) have undermined the integrity of our document... ian, if you don't want to include any mention of NN's lack of keyboard support in its help system, then why don't we also junk all of the other categories where NN fails to support the keyboard? i don't understand your logic or your unwillingness to include a section on keyboard support for the NN help system -- if one relies upon the keyboard for navigational purposes, but can't access the help system, then that should and must be noted... otherwise, all our Techniques document will yield us is peace in our times, and just ask the-country-formerly known as Czechoslovakia how good an idea that is... gregory. -------------------------------------------------------- He that lives on Hope, dies farting -- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1763 -------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/index.html> --------------------------------------------------------
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