- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:16:35 -0700
- To: "Madeleine Rothberg" <Madeleine_Rothberg@wgbh.org>, "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Thanks Madeleine for making this clear. Jon At 10:20 AM 9/24/99 +0000, Madeleine Rothberg wrote: > Reply to: RE>>MINUTES(edited): W3C WAI User Agent Telecon 22 >September* > >I was thinking of an output analogy to the input example of users >who don't have pointing devices, as used in the first paragraph >of the Guideline 1 rationale: > >"Since not all users make use of the same hardware for input or >output, software must be designed to work with the widest possible >range of devices. For instance, not all users have pointing devices, >so software must not rely on them for operation. Users must be able >to reach all functionalities offered by the user agent interface with >all input devices supported by the underlying system. " > >The concern is not content-related audio and text but user agent >alerts or messages. An example might be AOL's audio "You've Got Mail." >If that was the only way to know that you had new email, and you >couldn't hear or didn't have speakers on your browsing device, you >wouldn't know you had mail. (Luckily AOL also has some visual change >if you have mail.) For inclusion in the Guideline text, I propose >something like: > >"And not all users have speakers, or the ability to hear, so software >must not rely on audio output for messages and alerts. Any output provided >in audio should also be available in other output media. Text is the most >general output media, since most alternative output mechanisms rely on the >presence of system-drawn text on the screen." > >If this is too much detail for this part of the document, feel free to >trim it and perhaps use the rest in the techniques. > >-Madeleine > >-------------------------------------- >Date: 9/23/99 5:57 PM >To: Madeleine Rothberg >From: Ian Jacobs >Jon Gunderson wrote: >> >> 5) Issue #80 Make audio available as text. >> >> http://cmos-eng.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear.html#80 >> >> MR: In rationale of Guideline 1, I thought an additional example on output >> device independence. Example would meet needs of deaf users and output device >> independence. Take text from [3]: >> >> "And any output provided in audio should also be available in text since >> most alternative output mechanisms rely on the presence of system-drawn >> text on the >> screen." > >>AG: Also add cross-reference to show sounds in techniques document. > >>Resolved: ok to add text to introduction > >Hi, > >I looked back at this text from [3] and I'm not sure I understand. >Why does it belong in the section on device independence? Is this >about user agents *generating* text from audio? Or about ensuring >that author-supplied text is available? > >Or does "audio" mean "speech"? > >Before adding to the document, I need some clarification. > >Thank you, > > - Ian > >[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/1999JulSep/0083.html Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Chair, W3C WAI User Agent Working Group Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: 217-244-5870 Fax: 217-333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund http://www.w3.org/wai/ua http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
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