Re: SC 2.4.11 Focus Not Obscured

It’s not a violation of 2.4.11 but it is ugly. 

The revealed text should be readable from the button press. The button is not the text. If a JAWS use accidentally presses they appear to have no way to return to the revealed text. 

The UX for a keyboard user is also problematic- they have a focussed control with no visible label. (2.4.4 OTTMH). Voice input users have a similar issue. How do they ID the focussed button. 

Priority for me would be to fix the revealed text not create further issues with workrounds. 

Kevin

Priority for me would 
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> On 2 Jan 2025, at 12:08 PM, Audrey Frank <Audrey.Frank@thinkhighpointjv.com> wrote:
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> Good afternoon,
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> My team develops eLearning modules using Adobe Captivate. Sometimes we include “click to reveal” interactions. This involves the learner clicking a series of buttons, each of which shows a new block of text. The Forward button is not visible until the learner has clicked all of the buttons.
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> We have been using a workaround for JAWS users and here’s why – if a JAWS user tabs to the reveal buttons and presses enter, JAWS stops reading as soon as they hit Enter. So we put all of the “hidden” text on the button itself and tell them to tab to it and listen (but not to activate it, since that would stop JAWS). The problem is that since they do not activate those buttons, the Forward button never appears for them.
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> Our solution to this has been to include a button that is invisible but that receives visible keyboard focus. JAWS users are instructed to tab to it and activate it. We have been keeping the button itself invisible so that sighted users don’t realize there’s already a Forward button that would allow them to move forward without clicking the reveal buttons.
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> Is this a violation of 2.4.11 Focus Not Obscured? The focus itself is visible, but the button is (by design) invisible. I imagine that this is a decent solution for totally blind JAWS users, but my question is about JAWS users who are partially sighted, or keyboard users who do not use a screen reader at all.
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> Image below with an arrow pointing to the “invisible” forward button when it is tabbed to
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> Thank you,
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> Audrey Frank
> Manager, Media Development & 508 Accessibility | She/Her/Hers
> Cell 317.376.0477
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