- From: Taliesin Smith <talilief@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 11:19:39 -0230
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
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And just to follow-up to what others have said, we use aria-live regions to deliver our context responses (i.e., status messages). We do not use pop-ups to communicate anything like a status message. Status messages are designed to deliver necessary information about changes without requiring a move in focus. As soon as a user moves their focus (learner in our case) that disrupts what they had their attention on. That disruption can cause big usability problems disrupts the task - and for our sims that means it would disrupt the connections needed for sensemaking and the learning. As Adam said, explore with aria-live regions to handle messages like this. Best, Taliesin On 2025-06-25 17:21, Taliesin Smith wrote: > > In addition to WCAG 1.4.2 Name, Role , Value (Level A) requirement, > there is the 1.4.3 Status Messages (Level AA) requirement. > > In our research on highly interactive science simulations we have > found that in addition to complex status messages that describe > surrounding contextual changes, simple confirmatory status messages > are also very helpful and desirable by blind learners. > > In our description framework, we call "Status Messages" "Context > Responses." They are very helpful whether simple or complex in > interactive contexts. I would consider adding a status message for the > case you are describing. > > If you want to read about our description design framework, you can > read our 2020 CHI paper, Storytelling to Sensemaking: A Systematic > Framework for Designing Auditory Description Display for Interactives > <https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3313831.3376460>. In addition, for > a lot more detail we have created a description design course > available on > Coursera: https://www.coursera.org/learn/description-design-for-interactive-learning-resources > <description-design-for-interactive-learning-resources> > > Best, > > Taliesin > > > > On 2025-06-25 15:14, Mike Cleary wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Does a user action like a download need to be confirmed in the >> immediate aftermath of taking that action? or is it acceptable if the >> confirmation is consistently announced, albeit after a little navigation? >> >> We have an application where a user clicks a "Download" link on a >> popup form, and a second popup displays to say the download succeeded >> or failed. However, screen readers don't read the confirmation popup >> right away. >> Browsers post their own equivalent popups about the download, which >> seem to compete for focus. Screen readers read the browser >> confirmation in Firefox, but don't manage to read those confirmations >> in Edge or Chrome. >> If the download works, the focus ends up on original Download link >> (per SC 3.2.2). When that popup form with that link is closed, screen >> readers always read the popup confirmation next. >> >> Is it a problem that the screen reader doesn't always provide >> immediate feedback? Or is WCAG 2.0 satisfied because the screen >> reader always eventually gets there. >> >> Please advise. >> >> Mike >> >> * >> * >> >> * >> * >> >> *Mike Cleary**(Contractor) | Scrum Master* >> >> *Guidehouse, Inc. * >> >> mike.cleary@GrantSolutions.gov <mailto:email@GrantSolutions.gov> >> >> ** >> >> *On Assignment With* >> >> *GrantSolutions* >> >> *Office of Grants, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Financial >> Resources (ASFR) >> U.S. Department of Health and Human Services* >> >> Mobile: 703.627.7501 >>
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