- From: Kevin Prince <kevin.prince@fostermoore.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 03:31:47 +0000
- To: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>, Ms J <ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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If the alt/accessible name is available as a tool tip that would probably count as accessible and available to all from a strict definition of conformance - horrible UX still of course... Kevin From: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2024 10:44 PM To: Ms J <ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: RE: Obscure images as labels CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. My view is that this is not a WCAG non-conformance, although it is clearly bad UX. SC 3.3.2 (Labels or Instructions) only applies to links or other controls that are associated with data entry, so it does not apply to components such as burger menu buttons and "Help" icons. Even in the context of data entry, it explicitly does not require that labels are sufficiently clear or descriptive. SC 2.4.6 (Headings and Labels) requires that if headings or labels are provided, they be descriptive. However, WCAG defines a label as "text or other component with a text alternative", which means that images can be used as long as the text alternative is sufficiently descriptive. https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/headings-and-labels#dfn-label This is obviously of no use to sighted people, but I guess the rationale is that people with disabilities are not at a greater disadvantage than anyone else. In fact, the text alternative means that it is more accessible to some people with disabilities than it is to anyone else. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: Ms J <ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com<mailto:ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2024 11:20 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Obscure images as labels Hello If I have a button and the visible label is an icon or image which is basically very abstract and it isn't possible to infer the purpose of the control from the icon alone, but the button has a clear accessible name, does this fail 'headings and labels' please? It almost feels as though there is no label at all if the label is just a useless image or icon that does not clearly indicate the purpose of the control, in which case I even think there's an argument that it fails 'labels or instructions'. I have seen icons for say 'settings' labelled by images of animals (because this image was the company logo) which is entirely unrelated to. The accessible name was 'settings' but this doesn't fail label in name as the label is an image. Thanks Sarah Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> Kevin Prince Product Accessibility & Usability Consultant E kevin.prince@fostermoore.com Christchurch fostermoore.com This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should contact the sender immediately, you must not use, copy or disclose any of the information in the email, and you must delete it from your system immediately.
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