RE: Programmatically determined link context

And how does one consume this programmatic context using a screen reader? 

 

 

 

 

From: Marc Haunschild (Accessibility Consulting) <marc.haunschild@accessibility.consulting> 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 3:13 PM
To: Juliette McShane Alexandria <mcshanejuliette@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Prince <kevin.prince@fostermoore.com>; Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>; Ms J <ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: Programmatically determined link context

 

 

The Understanding document says the "same list item". I believe the term and definition are considered the 'same' item.

 

Besides there is a sufficient technique (H80) that uses a preceding heading as context.

 

The relationship between dt and dd is similar to text with a heading.





The HTML spec says:

 

"The dt/dd element represents the description, definition, or value, part of a term-description group in a description list (dl element)." (emphasis added)

 

Anyway I still think that description lists are not well designed in html  - as a developer I wished about a billion times there would have been a grouping element around dt and dd - but that’s another story…





I would agree that for the purposes of WCAG 2.1 level AA SC 2.4.4 if the needed context is in a dt/dd pair then the link has appropriate context

 

Full ACK - although dt can be followed by multiple dds - so it’s not necessarily a pair.

 

Sorry for being a little pedantic. I’m German. I just try to fit into the stereotype 

😉

Marc





Best,

Juliette

On 8/9/2023 11:34:34 AM, Kevin Prince <kevin.prince@fostermoore.com> wrote:

I’d agree – the list gives them a clear relationship.

 

Kevin

 


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From: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>
Date: Thursday, 10 August 2023 at 2:40 AM
To: Ms J <ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Programmatically determined link context

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I would say that they are.

 

Steve Green

Managing Director

Test Partners Ltd

 

 

From: Ms J <ms.jflz.woop@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 2:20 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Programmatically determined link context

 

Hello

 

Just a quick one. Are the terms in a description list <dt> part of the programmatically determined link context for links in the corresponding definition tag <dd>

 

Example:

<dl>

<dt>first page</dt><dd><a href>link</a></dd>

<dt>second page</dt><dd><a href>link</a></dd>

</dl>

We believe they are but weren't sure how stringent the definition of 'programmatically determined link context' was as it says 'includes...' so we weren't sure if that was 'includes only' or 'includes but is not limited to'. 

Thanks! 

Sarah

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