- From: Charles 'chaals' (McCathie) Nevile <chaals@yandex.ru>
- Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:24 +0200
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Turns out I know someone in ETSI so I am following up. It is indeed unfortunate if their spec is not accessible, so detailed technical explanationn like this is helpful cheers On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 09:57:38 +0200, Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk> wrote: > You are correct, Sailesh. There are accessibility issues throughout the > document, especially the inappropriate use of tables to control layout, > incorrect table cells marked as headers, missing "rowspan" attributes, > lists broken across pages etc. > > The table that starts on page 90 is horrible because it's got three > levels of column headings. It's not possible to tag it correctly in Word > and you can't even fix it with Acrobat's Table Editor because it doesn't > work if cells contain rotated text. You have to add the required > attributes to the Properties of each cell, but not many people know how > to do that. > > That said, I expect that screen reader users would still have a horrible > experience even if the table was tagged correctly. The effective column > header for some cells is the concatenation of the three rows of headers. > This is very long and it is announced before the data in each cell when > using table commands to navigate across a row. > > If anyone is thinking of complaining to ETSI, remember that each > individual must have their own license for the standard. It would be > rather embarrassing if you submitted a complaint and they pointed out > that you don't have a license. > > Steve Green > Managing Director > Test Partners Ltd > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sailesh Panchang <spanchang02@gmail.com> > Sent: 03 July 2022 19:54 > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: Inaccessibility of EN301-549 (PDF format) Standards for screen > reader users > > Hello Listers, > I had highlighted the subject issue in 2019 but the issues still > persist. So I followed up again just a few weeks ago by writing to ETSI. > For instance at present the data tables in Annex A (A.1 and A.2) that > start on page 90 of version 3.2.1 (March 2021) do not convey > relationship between header cells and data cells. > The tables are not tagged to convey the column-span property. It appears > the PDF is created by saving Word files as PDF and no further tagging is > done. > So it is almost impossible to comprehend the table structure using a > screen reader. > This problem would also be caught by testing with AT (if done) before > the PDF is published publicly. > So it is important for users who depend on AT / accessibility features > to write to ESPsupport@etsi.org, convey their experience and urge ETSI > to make necessary changes. > It is not good that the standards themselves pose accessibility > problems. > Thanks, > Sailesh > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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