- From: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>
- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:50:15 +0000
- To: Gijs Veyfeyken <gijs@five-oaks.be>, Gregg Vanderheiden RTF <gregg@raisingthefloor.org>
- CC: Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>, W3C WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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VIP PDF is doing the same as Adobe Reader’s Reflow mode, but with a few important differences. Firstly, all the text is the same size, whereas it is not in Adobe Reader, so you cannot always set a zoom level that is appropriate for all the content. Secondly, all the text is the same colour, as is the background, and you can easily select the colour scheme you want. By contrast, Adobe Reader’s colour substitution feature is very buggy. For example, you cannot change the colour of pure white text, which changes to the same colour as the background and becomes invisible. Sometimes you are left with blocks of background colours overlaying your chosen background colour for no apparent reason. Thirdly, the lines of text are evenly spaced and left justified. By contrast, the layout can be all over the place in Adobe Reader. The consequence is that PDFs are much more readable in VIP PDF than in Adobe Reader’s Reflow mode. I am sure there are downsides to it too, so I will take a deeper look later. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: Gijs Veyfeyken <gijs@five-oaks.be> Sent: 18 September 2020 13:18 To: Gregg Vanderheiden RTF <gregg@raisingthefloor.org> Cc: Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>; W3C WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: Reflow persona "What's New WCAG 2.1" Hi, I'm confused. Reflow has been available in Adobe Reader en Acrobat for a very long time: https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/reading-pdfs-reflow-accessibility-features.html#reflow_a_pdf Or does the table you point to have a different understanding of "reflow"? Kind regards, Gijs -- Gijs Veyfeyken web accessibility specialist Five Oaks www.five-oaks.be<http://www.five-oaks.be> tel +32 479 27 71 45 Op 18 sep. 2020, om 14:06 heeft Gregg Vanderheiden RTF <gregg@raisingthefloor.org<mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org>> het volgende geschreven: Not allowing pages that require horizontal scrolling is in WCAG 2.0 By the way — speaking of word wrapping and not needing to horizontal scroll when you enlarge, there is a PDF reader that allows reflow / wrapping of text as you enlarge. It is at the top of the chart - here and you can see it is the only one we have been able to find. https://ds.gpii.net/content/pdf-readers-readability-features I am surprised more don’t know about it — so if you can help spread the word about it that would be great. I didnt have anything to do with it - but take a look at it — and let me know if it really works for you. And if it does I will double down on getting information on it out to other people . gregg ——————————— Professor, University of Maryland, College Park Director , Trace R&D Center, UMD Co-Founder Raising the Floor. http://raisingthefloor.org<http://raisingthefloor.org/> And the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure (GPII) http://GPII.net<http://gpii.net/> On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com<mailto:wayneedick@gmail.com>> wrote: Please consider the following. "It's nearly impossible to read text if I have to scroll right and left to read each line. It's disorienting and I lose my place. It makes it hard to understand what I'm reading." ADD "I have to scroll 50 to 100 times to read one page." The gross amount of scrolling is overwhelming. This was the one SC that got 100% support from the LVTF. Best, Wayne
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