- From: Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:53:12 +1000
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Patrick H. Lauke'" <redux@splintered.co.uk>
I'd argue that this kind of repetition caused by developer ignorance is a hard failure of 1.1.1 because the text alternative does not serve an equivalent purpose to the non-text content. If the label on the button included the word 'button' or the column heading in a data table had header text repeated three times or some other feature had 'global navigation navigation region' as a heading, it would be resolved as a functional defect and reasonably quickly. Accessibility is usability for people with disability - the notion that they are somehow fundamentally different disciplines is problematic. And shoehorning the evaluation of accessibility into functional testing and within everyday severity/criticality metrics is similarly problematic. In any case, de-valuing such defects as 'usability' or something not to be fixed says much about our attitudes to both quality and user experience ... -----Original Message----- From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk] Sent: Friday, 24 July 2020 7:16 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Question about proper use of screen readers in 508 testing On 23/07/2020 21:49, Andrews, David B (DEED) wrote: > On the useable thing, the button button thing is usually caused by > having the word button in the label, and the screen reader identifies > the control as a button, hence the double speak. Why would you argue > about this, just take the word button out of the label. If these are being flagged as critical WCAG failures though, then there's a conversation to be had with the testers, because normatively I'd say it's not a failure of WCAG. And claiming/saying that they are undermines any other results they may be producing. Sure, flag it as a best practice/usability issue to be fixed. But don't pretend it's a hard failure of the spec. P -- Patrick H. Lauke https://www.splintered.co.uk/ | https://github.com/patrickhlauke https://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | https://www.deviantart.com/redux twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke
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