Re: [External Sender] <ol start="3"> Is this accessible?

Sometimes the lists were used as a design solution… writers wanted to make the content more ’scannable’, and they really aren’t list items. They’re just bulleted, indented paragraphs — those I can deal with with redesign. 

But sometimes they are ‘lists’ as like, here are 5 treatments for your lower back pain.. but each ‘list item’ is a thorough multi-paragraphed description of the treatment, within a list item.



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> On Nov 19, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Brian Lovely <brian.lovely@capitalone.com> wrote:
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> Are the lists well formed? The parent list only has list items as immediate children? That's one of the few things I think you can call out from WCAG.
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> Otherwise, it's just a bad experience for all users. There's certainly nothing I would recommend doing for screen reader users. Your best bet would be to make some kind of argument about its effect on users with cognitive issues.
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> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:53 AM Jeana Clark <jclark@veritashealth.com <mailto:jclark@veritashealth.com>> wrote:
> I’m doing a lot of content cleanup, and I’ve discovered that a lot of our lists are broken up by advertising. Inherently this is bad user experience. However, I am wondering if there is explicit verbiage that might indicate how this is also an impediment for screen readers. 
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> I can only imagine that starting a list, indicating how many items are in the list, reading the list, then stopping because other content (an ad) is inserted and then continuing the list starting on *not* number 1, but number 3 because it’s a continuation of the previous list can be very confusing. 
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> Can anyone point me to content on how to address this, or how this is a bad experience for screen readers? I have found this, but it doesn’t address my issue at hand: https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Techniques/html/H48.html <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Techniques/html/H48.html__;!0Ns9_1dOjwg!IpGU2RVT0VHx7vzLf7wpEXOCpdT-DTNAEJdS5BikxzIVl4Lxv-vShiHgbBbHdixVVAb6Fg$>
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