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Re: Electron accessibility

From: Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:35:10 +0000
To: Markku Hakkinen <mhakkinen@acm.org>
Cc: "Sean Murphy (seanmmur)" <seanmmur@cisco.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <fb007440-292b-05a2-e030-18361a3eedde@tink.uk>
Thanks Mark. That's useful information. I've been talking with someone 
at MS about VSCode, but was just hunting for additional information to 
try and get my bearings.

Léonie.
On 19/01/2018 23:55, Markku Hakkinen wrote:
> Hi Leonie,
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk 
> <mailto:tink@tink.uk>> wrote:
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>     On 15/01/2018 01:42, Markku Hakkinen wrote:
> 
>         Electron is a wrapper around the Chrome (Chromium) browser.  The
>         accessibility support native to the version of Chromium used to
>         build Electron is what is exposed.   Cautionary note is that
>         Electron releases typically lag several releases behind the
>         current Chrome release, meaning bugs fixed in newer releases of
>         Chrome will not be present in the “current” Electron release.
> 
> 
>     It seems from what you've said, that Electron can be accessible -
>     with the caveat that there may be some lag before issues are
>     resolved there. Does that mean Electron in and of itself is capable
>     of a reasonable degree of accessibility?
> 
> 
> I am personally aware of, designed for, and tested accessible 
> applications built on Electron, and hence well aware of the lag issues. 
> Also, I need to add that our electron-based applications are currently 
> executing under Windows.  We have not yet tested on other platforms 
> (e.g., MacOS) so YMMV on other platforms.  With the caveat of Windows, 
> and coding the web application accessibly, then, yes, Electron is 
> capable of accessible applications in that Google Chrome allows for same.
> 
> 
>     I ask because I'm trying (and failing) to find a screen reader
>     accessible code editor. Atom and VS Code are both Electron based,
>     and neither seems usefully accessible. Much the same seems to be
>     true of Slack, another Electron based tool I'd very much like to be
>     usable with a screen reader.
> 
> 
> I would have to suggest that VS Code has failings in implementation. I 
> wouldn't point my finger at Electron, directly, without testing.
> 
> 
>     As an aside, I know VS Code has an accessibility mode, but when it's
>     enabled you lose basic features like word wrapping and line
>     numbering, and I can't write code without those two basic features!
> 
> 
> Yes, they have that mode.  Perhaps this is best pursued with the VS Code 
> support group?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>     Léonie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Mark
> 
>         On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 7:13 PM Sean Murphy (seanmmur)
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