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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:45:45 -0500 (EST)
To: (unknown charset) Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
cc: (unknown charset) Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>, w3c-wai-ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.1801151644540.24299@cygnus.smart.net>

I suspect this would be a massive moving target that would take several 
people full time work to maintain

Bob

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018, Phill Jenkins wrote:

> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:35:04 -0600
> From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
> To: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>
> Cc: w3c-wai-ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Subject: RE: Directory of accessible websites/ apps
> Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:35:35 +0000
> Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> 
> I do not know of any "good centralized repository" of the accessibility
> conformance of Web sites and web apps, products, and/or software as a
> service offerings.  There have been a couple service providers that scan
> public web sites (not apps) and try to provide conformance results, some
> private, some public.  However, Section 508.gov (see
> https://section508.gov/content/VARC) tries to maintain a list of vendors
> and links to where they provide accessibility conformance reports on their
> offerings.  Even the W3C Authoring Tools (a specific subset of
> apps/products) working group had/has a difficult time maintaining a list
> of authoring tools that conform to the ATAG spec (see
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2002/tools ).
>
> Although it appears simple on the surface, there are a lot of questions
> about the validity (which standard), how current is the information, and
> usefulness of a single repository if one were to be created. It would need
> to be "updated" as frequently as the owner/vendor updates their offerings
> and the conformance of their offering.  Software and Web "continuous
> delivery" practices have challenged the notion of a stable conformance
> report.
>
> As listed in Section508.gov and other places, to request an IBM product
> Accessibility Conformance Report (in VPATŪ 2.0 format) simply go to
> able.ibm.com/request.
> Other companies have similar request pages.  As far as I know, IBM was the
> first to publish reports in ITI's new VPATŪ 2.0 format back on October 4,
> 2017.
>
> Please note that IBM and other vendors provide the 'Accessibility
> Conformance Report' in the Information Technology Industry Council's (ITI)
> VPATŪ 2.0 format which covers (e.g. includes all three) all the following:
>
> WCAG 2.0 Level A and Level AA,
> U.S. Section 508 Revised Standards, and
> European's EU 301 549 standards.
>
> See more about ITI at https://www.itic.org/policy/accessibility
> ___________
> Regards,
> Phill Jenkins
> Check out the new system for requesting an IBM product Accessibility
> Conformance Report VPATŪ at  able.ibm.com/request
> pjenkins@us.ibm.com
> Senior Engineer & Accessibility Executive
> IBM Research Accessibility
> linkedin.com/in/philljenkins/
> ibm.com/able
> facebook.com/IBMAccessibility
> twitter.com/IBMAccess
> ageandability.com
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>
> From:   Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>
> To:     w3c-wai-ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Date:   01/15/2018 10:43 AM
> Subject:        RE: Directory of accessible websites/ apps
>
>
>
> US vendors should have VPATs for their products. These should be granular
> enough that you can see how the level of accessibility varies across the
> application. Since not everyone needs to use every feature in a product, I
> think it is necessary to consider each product in this way rather than
> looking at a simple overall rating.
>
> However, I don't know of any centralised repository of such information.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elizabeth Pyatt [mailto:ejp10@psu.edu]
> Sent: 15 January 2018 16:23
> To: Ash Ta <duc.ta.740@gmail.com>
> Cc: Adi Latif <adi.latif@abilitynet.org.uk>; w3c-wai-ig
> <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Directory of accessible websites/ apps
>
> This is a common request I also hear in the higher education sector, but
> there are a few caveats to consider.
>
> 1. If a report of a product is found, I would recommend checking the date
> of the report.
>
> Some products are updated so quickly that results are often out of date.
> For instance, our LMS releases updates about every three weeks.
> Fortunately, they are pretty good at sending a list to the schools so they
> know about them and can test major feature changes.
>
> 2. Often reports made at an institution may need to be locked down due to
> confidentiality agreements. Still, there may be information available on a
> Google search or through accessibility lists.
>
> 3. I do believe many vendors are beginning to understand the need for
> accessible products, especially if they are in the higher education or
> government markets. Some larger vendors may now have an accessibility unit
> that you can consult with. However, the sales unit may or may not always
> be familiar with that part of the company.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
>> On Jan 15, 2018, at 11:09 AM, Ash Ta <duc.ta.740@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Interesting to know this too. I want to have a hub where people can find
> shared accessibility reports for all vendors.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Duc Ta
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>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Adi Latif <adi.latif@abilitynet.org.uk>
> wrote:
>> Hello All,
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>> Apologise if this has been asked before.
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>> Is there a directory which lists and ranks different service providers
> on how accessible their service is
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>> ?
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>> For example if I wanted to try source an accessible employee engagement
> tool for my organisation or if I was looking for an accessible flight
> booking website or if I wanted to know what is more accessible Slack or
> Microsoft Teams it could tell me?
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>> Thanks in advance!
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>> Warmest
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>> Adi
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