- From: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 20:22:17 -0800
- To: "'Phill Jenkins'" <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "'Patrick H. Lauke'" <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Message-ID: <05cb01d36024$d2292f80$767b8e80$@gmail.com>
Phill, In the roles, states, and properties section of the breadcrumb pattern it says: . The link to the current page has aria-current set to page. If the element representing the current page is not a link, aria-current is optional. The pattern is demonstrating the use case where aria-current is needed. It is so common, that it seemed worth doing so. I am not aware of accessibility rationale or data that would support discouraging that type of design. In general, the guide does not yet specifically address the currently incubating personalization standards related to cognitive disabilities. Matt From: Phill Jenkins [mailto:pjenkins@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 4:36 PM To: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com> Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org; 'Patrick H. Lauke' <redux@splintered.co.uk> Subject: RE: [breadcrumbs] best practice Why is it a best practice to make the current page an active link to the same page - isn't an active visible link distracting or at least confusing to users with cognitive disabilities? snip of code from pattern: . . . <li> <a href="./index.html" aria-current="page"> Breadcrumb Example </a> ___________ Regards, Phill Jenkins From: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com <mailto:a11ythinker@gmail.com> > To: "'Patrick H. Lauke'" <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk> >, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> > Date: 11/17/2017 03:38 PM Subject: RE: [breadcrumbs] best practice _____ BTW, we have a breadcrumb pattern in the ARIA Authoring Practicess: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__w3c.github.io_aria-2Dpr actices_-23breadcrumb&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaX q44Tf6K41u809DPE44ioVTOvk&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=e5 C8yTeHLQIvfyj7gYB1HCJtEUe9xxudgWp1JsAYXeo&e=> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__w3c.github.io_aria-2Dpra ctices_-23breadcrumb&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq 44Tf6K41u809DPE44ioVTOvk&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=e5C 8yTeHLQIvfyj7gYB1HCJtEUe9xxudgWp1JsAYXeo&e= Matt King -----Original Message----- From: Patrick H. Lauke [ <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk> mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 2:09 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: [breadcrumbs] best practice On 17/11/2017 09:43, Harry Loots wrote: > Hi all > what is the current thinking on breadcrumbs. > > I have a situation where a client want to display the page name in the > breadcrumb, then repeat the page name immediately afterwards as a > heading, which I know can be a nuisance for text-to-speech users. I'd say across all the things that can be problematic/nuisance on web pages, that's a pretty minor thing. I'd further argue that even if the text is repeated, it does serve two separate purposes: in the breadcrumb navigation, to indicate this is the current page; as a heading, to, well, act as heading for the actual page's content. In short, don't think it's an actual problem. > Are their any firm rules on breadcrumbs, or strong views for that > matter :) No firm rules, as with most things in accessibility *grin* And as is often the case, it'll depend on the specific situation (i.e. how is the breadcrumb actually marked up? how long are these page titles - a few words, or as long as a whole sentence - etc). P -- Patrick H. Lauke www.splintered.co.uk| <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_patrickhlau ke&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq44Tf6K41u809DPE44i oVTOvk&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=J975Gwb3-Ry2o92iqMAP_ PFQbnC6dMa3J0OrDfrDMig&e=> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_patrickhlauk e&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq44Tf6K41u809DPE44io VTOvk&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=J975Gwb3-Ry2o92iqMAP_P FQbnC6dMa3J0OrDfrDMig&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__flickr.com_photos_redux _&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq44Tf6K41u809DPE44io VTOvk&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=E-yGcPVgZ3j5HsanJo6IZR 8ue5Lp2jALvkQKRFh3s8Q&e=> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__flickr.com_photos_redux_ &d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq44Tf6K41u809DPE44ioV TOvk&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=E-yGcPVgZ3j5HsanJo6IZR8 ue5Lp2jALvkQKRFh3s8Q&e=| <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__redux.deviantart.com&d= DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq44Tf6K41u809DPE44ioVTOv k&m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=KGbXWvU6wp3d7m7ac7HfF4DTlu IOlvt_KrAKkbX-j3E&e=> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__redux.deviantart.com&d=D wIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=aWgRqmoh0Xuzjf7UaXq44Tf6K41u809DPE44ioVTOvk &m=EaHSkTPXnr7dz7IhuHLdmQGRwCs_U25W6xuCtcpx4xw&s=KGbXWvU6wp3d7m7ac7HfF4DTluI Olvt_KrAKkbX-j3E&e= twitter: @patrick_h_lauke | skype: patrick_h_lauke
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