RE: Should Datepickers be treated as a Modal Dialog?

When making a11y decisions, please don't' reference content deleted from the
ARIA authoring Practices. 

 

The file in our repo at:

https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/master/aria-practices-DeletedSectionsA
rchive.html

contains content that was deleted and we kept it on hand only because it
contains some useful fragments. But, that file contains content that has
significant errors and some guidance that is not recognized as good practice
by the ARIA working group.

 

We will eventually remove that file completely.

 

Thanks,

Matt King

 

From: Bolena, Zachary [mailto:Zachary.Bolena@Schwab.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 6:59 AM
To: Subramanian, Poornima (PCL) <psubramanian@hagroup.com>;
w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: W3C WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Should Datepickers be treated as a Modal Dialog?

 

Hi Poornima,

 

I guess this would be considered a dialog non-modal as it is described as:

 

"A dialog is a small application window that sits above the application and
is designed to interrupt the current processing of an application in order
to prompt the user to enter information or require a response"

 

(https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/master/aria-practices-DeletedSections
Archive.html#dialog_nonmodal)

 

The content addressing the dialog non-modal on this page seems to be similar
to a modal dialog except hiding the background content does not seem to be
addressed. Perhaps it does not apply so it was not addressed. 

 

I see that this is currently being drafted so I will address it on the
github thread (Draft Dialog (non-Modal) design pattern
<https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/59>   #59). 

 

 

Thank you,
Zach Bolena

 

From: Subramanian, Poornima (PCL) [mailto:psubramanian@hagroup.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:43 AM
To: Bolena, Zachary; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> 
Cc: W3C WAI Interest Group
Subject: RE: Should Datepickers be treated as a Modal Dialog?

 

If you see the ARIA patterns, there are two different widgets: Modal dialog,
Non-modal dialog.

 

http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/#dialog_nonmodal
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This Non-modal dialog does not fade out the background content (contrast to
what modal does). I think it is of no harm to code the date pickers as
non-modal dialog where the keyboard navigation is possible to the background
content while date picker is open. 

 

It is important that the date picker widget is easy to interpret announcing
its Name, Role, State, Value along with instructions. 

 

Best,

Poornima. 

 

From: Bolena, Zachary [mailto:Zachary.Bolena@Schwab.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:55 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> 
Cc: W3C WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >
Subject: Should Datepickers be treated as a Modal Dialog?

 

Hello All,

 

Every example of an "accessible" date picker I have looked at online does
not treat the datepicker as a modal dialog. Is this because it is not a seen
as a modal dialog but rather a specific task based widget? Should the
datepicker container <div> take on the same characteristics as a modal such
as hiding the background from screen readers when the datepicker calendar is
active? 

 

 

Thank you,
Zachary Bolena
Senior Manager of Accessibility for User Experience 
Charles Schwab & Co., Inc.

 

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