- From: Frank M. Palinkas <fmpalinkas@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 07:38:44 -0700
- To: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex.ru>
- Cc: WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>
- Message-ID: <CAN6dTQWu-iGtZLmq8NhHcHUAL5c9Ugpu+u8OCDFcBCFsquotdw@mail.gmail.com>
I'm not sure if this will be of any help, however I wrote an accessibility tutorial regarding the use of DOM/JavaScript with the HTML <noscript> element some years ago. Here is the Github address: https://github.com/fmpalinkas/web-accessibility-tutorials/wiki/Replacing---%22noscript%22---with-accessible,-unobtrusive-DOM-JavaScript Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Senior Technical Writer Betcade, LLC Mobile: +1 650 248 5315 Web page: https://github.com/fmpalinkas/web-accessibility-tutorials/wiki On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex.ru> wrote: > (Note, this is something of a wandering rant, not very long but very > quickly getting away from the original topic) > > On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 20:05:31 +0200, David Woolley < > forums@david-woolley.me.uk> wrote: > > On 05/10/17 18:34, Giacomo Petri wrote: >> >>> a WebAIM survey in 2014 reported that 97.6% of respondents had >>> Javascript enabled >>> >> >> The significance of this is the opposite of the obvious one. Given the >> vast number of sites that are unusable without Javascript enabled, it is >> saying that there are still people who think it important not to enable it. >> > > Yes - that is quite true. However the reasons for not using javascript are > rarely related to accessibility any more, and more to do with privacy and > security, or occasionally performance. > > There is some intersection of concerns - because of poor accessibility in > browser's privacy and security interfaces there may be a stronger incentive > to just turn off JS if you want enhanced security an privacy. As David > notes, that means foregoing the ability to use many many common sites - a > price some people are willing to pay in an attempt to improve their > protection. > > While I think there is a strong case to be made for pushing browsers to > enhance the accessibility of security/privacy, it is a difficult argument > in practice and not just because browsers put accessibility at a low > priority. > > The common approach over the last decade or so has been to try to ensure > security *by default*, making it hard for users to do things that degrade > their protection, on the assumption borne out by evidence that almost > anything that requires users to understand security in order to protect > themselves will effectively expose the vast majority of users. The > consequence of this is that enhancing the ability to deal with exceptional > cases - those who will work harder to keep more privacy or security than > average - is a lot of work for a small segment of consumers, and will > effectively commit developers to ongoing maintenance of the feature. That's > already a big disincentive :( > > "Further complicating" the work, to ensure that it is done with > accessibility in mind *should* be a natural process, because accessibility > should be a straightforward requirement for any professional, but in > practice we are a long way from that desirable state of justice and > professionalism. And so the reality is that few people are in a position to > do this, and many of those people are not sure *how* to do it even if they > think it is what they should be doing. On top of that, because in many > cases this work is done "on the margins" - for example only when developers > have spare time to look after something - they may not have a practical way > of finding out what they need to know. > > Some research and practical, *reproducible* work on enhancing the > accessibility of user security and privacy would be a great thing. There > are many browsers around, and some of the smaller ones (Brave, Vivaldi, > Whale, ...) may be faster to improve in this area than those who are trying > not to disturb their already large market share. > > cheers > > -- > Chaals is Charles McCathie Nevile > find more at http://yandex.com > >
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