Re: Negative numbers

Hi All,
The last message from Mr Loots got me thinking a bit and I wonder if it is
a minus ( Unicode U-2212 )?

I have no idea how an assistive device would handle it but let me insert
some here for testing:

−1  ( minus sign, unicode U+2212 )
-2   ( hypen-minus, unicode U+002D, this is the default from a normal
keypress for me )
–3  ( en dash, unicode U+2013 )
‑4   ( non-breaking hyphen, unicode U+2011 )

Do any of those read correctly (hopefully the first one)?

If not, maybe alt text or title attributes on an `abbr` or `span` wrapper
around the character.

Hope that helps!

Adam Powell
http://www.adaminfinitum.com


On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org> wrote:

> Is there anything in CSS or an attribute in HTML that could be  used to
> force the reading out of the (-) characters?
> Kind regards
> Harry
>
>
> On 30 September 2017 at 02:20, Russ Weakley <russ@maxdesign.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jospeh,
>>
>> If negative numbers are a concern just for you, then you can change your
>> verbosity settings and set punctuation to "all"
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/voiceover/hear-punctua
>> tion-mchlp2703
>>
>> Keep in mind, this will then read out a lot more information such as
>> colons, full-stops etc, and you may find this becomes painful.
>>
>> If this is for an application for other users and you are worried about
>> the following:
>>
>> - there are a fair amount of VoiceOver users who may be using the app
>> - you are concerned that not all VoiceOver users will have their
>> verbosity punctuation set to "all"
>> - there are negative numbers that are important for these users to
>> understand
>>
>> In circumstances like this, you may wish to use a work around (or hack).
>> A simple solution is to use an aria-label:
>>
>> <span aria-label="minus 91">-91</span>
>>
>> You can see this in action here:
>> https://jsfiddle.net/russmaxdesign/fhs8m6z1/
>>
>> HTH
>> Russ
>>
>>
>> Quoting Joseph Yang <joesaiyang@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I'm having an issue with Voiceover not reading negative numbers.
>>> Apparently
>>> it is not reading the minus sign. Has anyone been able to find a work
>>> around for this? I've read that using parentheses was an option, but
>>> because I work in banking, I'm not sure if that will be a viable option
>>> for
>>> the stakeholders.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Russ
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Russ Weakley
>> Mobile: 0403 433 980
>> Skype: russ-maxdesign
>> Email: russ@maxdesign.com.au
>> Github: https://github.com/russmaxdesign
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/russmaxdesign
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>