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Re: Can a contrast switcher control be inside a modal settings window? (Success Criteria 1.4.3)

From: Michael McCaffrey <mray298@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 23:33:42 -0400
Message-ID: <CAA9w55UNxn1MrN-gZT=ArQ4uAhtSBS9pOx1zJLNgsaRLbxod+w@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Denis Boudreau (gmail)" <dboudreau01@gmail.com>
Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>, Robert Jolly <jolly.robert@gmail.com>, Brian Stevens <bstevens@ilsworld.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Agree with Denis. Good approach but, thinking through the customer journay,
this could be difficult for some to find."Tucking under the settings" is a
quick fix, as you said.  I think this would work in the interm while you're
working on the long-term fix.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Denis Boudreau (gmail) <
dboudreau01@gmail.com> wrote:

> While the above is all true, I would argue that regardless of how "WCAG
> compliant" a contrast switcher could be made inside an equally "WCAG
> compliant" modal, hiding a control in this way will always make it harder
> to discover for some users than just clearly displaying it in plain sight
> for everyone to find. I invite you to not only consider how accessible the
> feature will be, but also how usable its implementation will be. IMHO,
> hiding stuff behind modals is rarely the best way to go about designing for
> inclusion. My $0.05 CDN.
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> On 2017-08-03 7:47:38 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Yes...
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> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>
> wrote:
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>> Ø  As long as the panel conforms to WCAG it's OK.
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>> And in my opinion the setting button to activate the panel.  I.e. the
>> path to reach the panel.
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>> *From:* David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:04 PM
>> *To:* Robert Jolly
>> *Cc:* Brian Stevens; w3c WAI List
>> *Subject:* Re: Can a contrast switcher control be inside a modal
>> settings window? (Success Criteria 1.4.3)
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>> As long as the panel conforms to WCAG it's OK.
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Robert Jolly <jolly.robert@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Hi Brian,
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>>
>> My understanding of this is your approach is OK, as long as it’s it’s
>> understood that the contrast settings are available in the settings
>> panel/modal.
>>
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>>
>> It’s good to hear you’re working on a design with good contrast
>> integrated. :)
>>
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>> HTH
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>> On Aug 3, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Brian Stevens <bstevens@ilsworld.com> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> We need to meet contrast requirements for 1.4.3 - Level AA. My team is
>> considering using a style switcher as a temporary fix. Since our web-app
>> already has a modal settings window (which is contrast compliant), we
>> prefer to place the switcher under our settings. The only problem is, I
>> can’t figure out whether tucking it under settings is allowed. The relevant
>> techniques (G174 and C29) just say that the link or control needs to be “on
>> the page.” Technically the settings window exists on the same page. Is that
>> good enough? Is there some precedent for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the relevant techniques:
>>
>> G174: Providing a control with a sufficient contrast ratio that allows
>> users to switch to a presentation that uses sufficient contrast
>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/G174.html>
>>
>> C29: Using a style switcher to provide a conforming alternate version
>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20161007/C29>
>>
>>
>>
>> Side-note: For the future, we are planning a contrast-compliant redesign,
>> but we need a short-term solution to meet a deadline.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brian Stevens
>>
>>
>>
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