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Re: Libraries to build web pages.

From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:04:42 +0000
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <b62f44ae-cd87-2e4e-494d-4242911aa30f@splintered.co.uk>
On 06/01/2017 14:26, SALES, TERRY LYNN wrote:
> At US Customs, we started a multi-app system with Bootstrap, made 508
> compliant components, created a framework, and raised that to the
> Customs level for all Customs development. Having the base Bootsrap
> compliant out of the box would be huge!

If there are specific suggestions/aspects that are problematic, it would 
be fantastic if you could file issues against 
https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues

While I know there are still quite a few broken/not ideal parts of 
Bootstrap, generally we're trying to make it as reasonably accessible as 
possible.

Cheers,

P

>  It would make my job less
> secure, but there would always be those who customize the compliance out
> :) *
>
> *
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2017 12:11:07 AM
> *To:* Sean Murphy (seanmmur)
> *Cc:* WAI Interest Group
> *Subject:* Re: Libraries to build web pages.
>
> Absolutely, I see companies are moving towards using libraries and
> plugins rather than coding from scratch. So I completely agree that
> these platforms/ frameworks / libraries have to provide accessibility
> out of the box. Also, these tools should have ability to flag if there
> are accessibility violations while inserting content.
>
> Best,
> Vasu
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
>
> Let's create an inclusive web!
>
> Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
> Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka
> Branch
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Sean Murphy (seanmmur)
> <seanmmur@cisco.com <mailto:seanmmur@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     Team,____
>
>     __ __
>
>     From my point of view, development environments which include the
>     libraries, bootstrap templates, code generators, etc are key focus
>     areas to improve accessibility. Some articles I have reviewed on the
>     net indicate web developers in the future will not need to have the
>     level of development knowledge, but more design and business
>     knowledge. Some of the tools I have used don’t include or even
>     discuss accessibility in their environment. Thus the topic I am
>     rasing is slightly left field and I am hoping people can help. ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     UAAG from my reading is focusing on the browser, media players and
>     plugins. Thus companies who develop libraries for web authors such
>     as rich edit controls, toolbars, drop down (combo boxes), etc should
>     follow the UAAG standards? ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     Those vendors who create development environments which allow the
>     author to build the web site without using any coding should be
>     following the ATAG standards. If the tool is using libraries as
>     previously described with the vendor develops. Then they should
>     follow the UAAG standards as well?____
>
>     __ __
>
>     If I am correct in the above, what is peoples views on the best
>     method of educating, encouraging or even using legal means to get
>     these vendors/developers to start utilising the standards? As the
>     end-user of the web product  only focuses on the organisation that
>     is publishing the web content, not the tools or development
>     environment. ____
>
>     __ __
>
>     Is any one aware of any company including accessibility in their
>     contracts with vendors who provide the development environment?____
>
>     __ __
>
>     AS some of the tools and libraries people use for development is
>     open source. How does legal laws like the ADA or section 508 apply
>     here? As from my understanding open source and like projects are not
>     owned by anyone. Thus getting these groups of people to follow the
>     accessibility standards is nearly impossible. Especially if you are
>     not a coder to assist with the project.____
>
>     __ __
>
>     I just see this as a big area of concern which I don’t see major
>     improvements. If the development environment which builds the web
>     product was accessible or supported the standards. Then I think a
>     lot of the issues would be addressed.____
>
>     __ __
>
>     Sean Murphy____
>
>


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