- From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:58:04 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
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hmm, 3.2.4 Consistent Identification Level AA Components that have the
same functionality within a set of Web pages are identified consistently.
so, in my opinion it depends on your interpratation of the term "same
functionality" and the term "identified consistently".
I note that in WCAG 2.0, the Glossary definitions are normative. See the
definition of the first term "same functionality" in question below:
https://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#samefunctionalitydef
same functionality
same result when used
Example: A submit "search" button on one Web page and a "find" button on
another Web page may both have a field to enter a term and list topics in
the Web site related to the term submitted. In this case, they would have
the same functionality but would not be labeled consistently.
so note that the definition does not explicitly use the HTML element or
WAI-ARIA Role in its definition of the term "same functionality". The
definition does use the term "labeled consistently" in place of the term
"identified consistently", inferring to me that the term "identified" is
at least referring to the label, and may or may not include the "role" of
the HTML element. HTML Elements and WAI-ARIA Roles, include "link (i.e.
anchor)", button, etc.
However, In my opinion, a button and a link can often have the same
result, but shouldn't. And, in my opinion, if a user is using an AT
(screen reader, magnifier, voice command, etc.) to navigate by button, and
misses all the links, or vice-versa, is navigating by link, and misses all
the buttons, then perhaps it is an AT problem to fix, or at least give the
end user the choice to include both. What is the real difference anyway if
both elements have the same results?
Having said that, there is general UX guidance out there and I agree with
most of it that explains when to use a button vs when to use a link:
When to Use a Button or Link - UX Movement
uxmovement.com/buttons/when-to-use-a-button-or-link/
Aug 9, 2010 - The button and link have co-existed on websites for
a long time. ... in how you use links vs buttons so users get used to the
difference (whether ...
Proper Use of Buttons and Links | Web Axe
www.webaxe.org/proper-use-buttons-links/
Sep 7, 2014 - After years of arguing for proper use of form
elements and link elements, others are finally doing the same. More
recently, this includes the ...
UX dilemmas - should we use a button or a link? | Blonde Digital
www.blonde.net/blog/2015/09/21/ux-dilemmas-should-we-use-button
-or-link
Sep 21, 2015 - By Lauren Bowen, User Experience Designer. The
question of whether to use a button or a link seems small. But what starts
as a simple UX ...
Design Decisions: Buttons vs Links. Fight!
getlevelten.com/blog/randall-knutson/design-decisions-buttons-vs-
links-fight
May 31, 2011 - There are pretty defined guidelines for when to use
buttons and when to use links and these are often not followed. The
relatively recent ...
The main point is, please do the basics. When designing a website, ensure
controls with button-type behavior (interaction, affects the current page)
are designed and marked-up as buttons and regular text links (go to an
external page, anchor on page, or external document) are marked-up and
designed like text links (such as blue underlined text).
In my opinion, the first two list items from Nicole's example have a
similar if not button-type result, while the second two have similar
link-like results, so I agree with the current use of the HTML elements:
button (which opens a self-contained modal/dialogue window within
the app)
link (which links outside the app to a web page)
and in my opinion, a design can mix buttons and links and plain text for
that matter in an order or unorder list. Menu items are not list items
and are a different discussion.
And, I recommend that the WCAG 2.0 editors add some notes and explanations
to the techniques to further give examples of "consistently identified"
that includes HTML Elements and/or WAI-ARIA roles.
In summary, the WCAG guidance refers to labels, names, and text
alternatives as needing to be consistent (not identical) for the same
results, but does not explicitly refer to HTML elements and roles as
having the same result (or same functionality). So the debate, design,
and inconsistent implementation will continue on whether a button and a
link can have the same (or different) result (or functionality).
Better AT's and better authoring tools are our only help, Obi-won Kenobi!
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Regards,
Phill Jenkins,
Senior Engineer & Business Development Executive
IBM Research - IBM Accessibility
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