- From: Wayne Dick <waynedick@knowbility.org>
- Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 12:55:48 -0700
- To: Chaals from Yandex <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Cc: Vedran Vucic <vedran.vucic@gmail.com>, WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAC9gL777qUeNGffmEo7Ty4DMti6ttSV=Q_ChZTP=ii4TxObb1A@mail.gmail.com>
I have already started studying these examples. It is an interesting problem. I am going to refer you to an example (not SVG) that Tom Jewett did for UML diagrams. The key thing is a data dictionary associated with the diagram. The thing about such a diagram is that it records the binary relation expressed by the graph (combinatorial). The site is at: Example from my online text, Database Design with UML and SQL: http://www.tomjewett.com/accessibility/alt-text.html I believe that any accessibility interface that is automated should capture the "data dictionary" of the defining combinatorial graph. Note how each of these diagrams is really based on a combinatorial graph. Even the "cool graph" is a bipartate directed graph. The pie charts are just graphs of functions. etc. The degree to which an SVG object can express the embedded combinatorial graph is the degree to which a data dictionary can be constructed. Wayne On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:02 AM, <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote: > Thank you Vedran, and Wayne... > > Please look at the SVG images in each of > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/School_Graphs > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Cool_Graphs > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Directed_Graphs > <https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/School_Graphs> > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Mapping_Graphs > <https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/School_Graphs> > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Other_Graphs > <https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/School_Graphs> > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Schematic_Graphs > <https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/School_Graphs> > > and see what issues there are for low vision users. > > One important task is writing them down - in reply to this thread, or > editing the wiki page directly if you have a login, or write to me and > getting me to pass it on... > > Another useful thing to do is to try out SVG implementation in whatever > browsers you use, and figure out what works and is helpful, and what > doesn't work and causes problems. Please remember to specify what > browser/OS/version you are using. I suspect we have a limited understanding > of how magnification really works across the web platform, and getting some > systematic sense of it would be good. > > For example, some browsers zoom text, some zoom pages, some reflow things > and some may not, etc. > > Also, if you have examples of images that we are missing - currently we've > got nothing interactive and there are a lot of interactive SVG things out > there - which we can publish (i.e. are public domain or similar), we'd be > grateful for them... > > cheers > > Chaals > > 26.05.2015, 08:53, "Vedran Vucic" <vedran.vucic@gmail.com>: > > I am willing to help. Please let me know what I am supposed to do. > > Thanks > > Vedran > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:30 AM, <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote: > > Hi, > > the SVG accessibility task force is trying to do a bunch of things. One of > them is to collect somewhat representative SVG images found "in the wild", > and figure out what issues they pose to users - which is a useful thing > when we try to figure out how to solve those problems. > > There is something of a collection at < > https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility#Images_for_playing_with_to_determine_use_cases_and_requirements> > although there is a lot that we probably need to add. > > Anyway, if people want to look over that, and provide comments, whether > here, on the github repository, or to the SVG accessibility task force, > that could be a helpful thing to do… > > cheers > > chaals > > -- > Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex > chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com > > > > -- > Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex > chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com > >
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