- From: Howard Leicester <howard_leicester@btconnect.com>
- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:17:51 +0000
- To: 'Andy Keyworth' <akeyworth@tbase.com>, 'WAI Interest Group' <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <3DA1D256CAE04E279B545A54D6AD5880@H30JC4J>
Thanks, All, for useful discussion, I’m just thinking that presentation of dates and phone numbers, in addition to times, may be in the same bracket? Perhaps we find a ‘standard’ for all, and rely on Assistive Technologies to present in the most appropriate formate? VV best, Howard (Kent, England) _____ From: Andy Keyworth [mailto:akeyworth@tbase.com] Sent: 07 November 2014 16:49 To: 'WAI Interest Group' Subject: RE: Opinions on accessible time formatting Thank you John, That’s a very comprehensive answer, and probably the best way to go. Cheers, Andy Keyworth Senior Web Accessibility Specialist T-Base Communications Phone: 613-236-0866 | Toll free: 1-800-563-0668 x 1256 www.tbase.com <http://www.tbase.com/> | Ogdensburg, NY | Ottawa, ON ALL TOUCH POINTS. ALL ACCESS METHODS. ALL FORMATS.TM This email may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please delete this email message immediately. From: John Foliot [mailto:john@foliot.ca] Sent: November-07-14 11:38 AM To: 'Olaf Drümmer'; 'WAI Interest Group' Subject: RE: Opinions on accessible time formatting I'm actually with John on this one… In part this is affected by some user-settings, but as I recall by defaults most screen readers will normally read upper-case letters aloud, so 9:00 AM would be read aloud as "nine aye em", whilst lower case 'might' be read as "nine am" (as in "I am concerned about this") Based upon that, my Best Practices would be to *always* note AM and PM in uppercase - and if you read through even just this response thread, you'll note that email clients are already using upper-case by default (presumption based upon observations). However, I wondered if the Chicago Style guide (or others) had anything to say here, and 5 minutes with Google confirms the following: * AP Style Guide: uses lower-case with periods (Example 1:00 a.m. or 3:00 p.m.) * Chicago Manual of Style: uses lower-case with periods * The New York Times Manual: uses lower-case with periods * Oxford Style Guide: uses lower-case, no periods (I personally would not recommend this, due to the 'am' issue) FWIW. JF From: Olaf Drümmer [mailto:olaflist@callassoftware.com] Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 7:41 AM To: WAI Interest Group Cc: Olaf Drümmer Subject: Re: Opinions on accessible time formatting Better yet, express time using 24 hours…. AM and PM should never have been invented…. ;-) Olaf On 7 Nov 2014, at 16:23, John Topp <jtopp@criticalmass.com> wrote: Wouldn’t the periods be needed so that the screen reader doesn’t pronounce them as words? Or better yet, use capitals? AM PM On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Andy Keyworth <akeyworth@tbase.com> wrote: 04.11.2014, 16:12, "Andy Keyworth" <akeyworth@tbase.com>: Hi, I'm hoping I can get some advice on how expressions of time can be accessibly formatted on web pages. For example, is 11:00 a.m. or 2:00 p.m. considered (generally) acceptable, or would 11:00 am or 2:00 pm (without periods between letters) be preferable? Is another format better? As far as I know, these are pretty much equal in reality. _____ The information contained in this message is confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity named above or their designee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution of this message, in any form, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete or destroy any copy of this message. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4189/8521 - Release Date: 11/06/14
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