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Re: Required Form Fields Question

From: Druckman,Geri <GDruckman@mdanderson.org>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 18:28:37 +0000
To: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CF3E153C.2E23%gdruckman@mdanderson.org>
ARIA works, meaning compatible with JAWS (JAWS started supporting ARIA, I believe, since version 10), NVDA and VoiceOver, and in all latest major browsers;  MS IE, FireFox, and Safari.

I have tested aria-required="true" with all of the screen readers and browsers mentioned above, and found it to be working properly.


Geri Druckman
Web Development Specialist - Accessibility
Department of Internet Services
MD Anderson Cancer Center
T 713-792-6293 | F 713-745-8134

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com<mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:43 AM
To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com<mailto:bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>>, Christophe Strobbe <strobbe@hdm-stuttgart.de<mailto:strobbe@hdm-stuttgart.de>>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: Required Form Fields Question
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[Bryan wrote] The aria-required attribute works in IE8 through 11, FF, Chrome, and Safari.

Can you clarify what you mean by works?  Is it exposed through the accessibility API (MSAA, UIA, etc.) or detected by assistive technologies such as NVDA, JAWS, ZoomText, etc. when used with these browsers.  I think it’s important to consider both scenarios.

Best Regards,

Jonathan

From: Bryan Garaventa [mailto:bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com<mailto:bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:37 PM
To: Christophe Strobbe; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Required Form Fields Question

The aria-required attribute works in IE8 through 11, FF, Chrome, and Safari.

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From:Christophe Strobbe<mailto:strobbe@hdm-stuttgart.de>
To:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Required Form Fields Question

Hi Geri,

On 6/03/2014 18:22, Druckman,Geri wrote:
Easiest way to make sure  screen reader users know a certain field is required, in my opinion, is to add aria-required="true" to the input tag.

According to <http://www.html5accessibility.com/><http://www.html5accessibility.com/%3e> HTML5's required attribute was already supported by Firefox 15 and Chrome 21 but not accessibility-supported by Internet Explorer 10.
Is aria-required better supported by assistive technologies?

Best regards,

Christophe



For example for a first name text field:
<input id="first-name" type="text" maxlength="50" value="" name="rel_first" aria-required="true" ></input>

I also recommended, here at MD Anderson, since most of our forms can get pretty lengthly, to add at the beginning of the form "All fields are required except those marked as optional.", and then only mark the optional fields with the word "Optional".  Makes it clearer and cleaner.


Geri Druckman
Web Development Specialist - Accessibility
Department of Internet Services
MD Anderson Cancer Center
T 713-792-6293 | F 713-745-8134

From: <Homme>, James <james.homme@highmark.com<mailto:james.homme@highmark.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:55 AM
To: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Required Form Fields Question
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Resent-Date: Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:56 AM

Hi,
If a required field symbol is on screen, immediately to the left of a form field, but outside the label tag, so that a screen reader user has to exit Form mode to see it, does that violate that a required field must be programmibly determined?
Thanks.
Jim


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