- From: <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>
- Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 20:13:13 -0400
- To: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>
- Cc: Bob carroll <accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden" <jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, "Lastort Joanne L [Contractor]" <Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov>, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>, W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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Paul,
No I was not referring to certification of web sites. Will you certify a
person based on their understanding of only WCAG 2.0 in general or their
knowledge of the differences between Levels A, AA or AAA? In other words
will you have 3 different levels (A, AA, AAA) of WCAG 2.0 certification or
just one certification to cover all 3 levels?
Thanks.
Tony
Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777
From: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>
To: Tony Jasionowski <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>,
Cc: Bob carroll <accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden"
<jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, "Lastort Joanne L [Contractor]"
<Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov>, David Hilbert Poehlman
<poehlman1@comcast.net>, W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date: 04/11/2014 09:48 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap
> Is your focus on WCAG 2.0? If not please clarify further? As you know
AODA already requires WCAG 2.0 Level AA. Will IAAP certify each Level of
WCAG 2.0?
My response: The IAAP will certify the skills of an individual according
to the current best practice. Right now, and for the foreseeable future,
WCAG 2.0 is considered best practice for many kinds of digital content, so
yes, the IAAP will test a person's knowledge and skills relative to WCAG
2.0. If and when that changes, the IAAP will adapt to the new best
practices.
IAAP will not certify web sites or organizations, if that's what you were
asking.
Paul Bohman, PhD
Director of Training
Deque Systems, Inc
www.deque.com
703-225-0380, ext.121
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:56 PM, <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>
wrote:
Paul,
Noted, IAAPs focus is based on this email list, which I totally support as
an IAAP #1 priority? Is your focus on WCAG 2.0? If not please clarify
further? As you know AODA already requires WCAG 2.0 Level AA. Will IAAP
certify each Level of WCAG 2.0?
Best wishes,
Thanks.
Tony
Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777
From: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>
To: Tony Jasionowski <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>,
Cc: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>, "Lastort Joanne
L [Contractor]" <Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov>, Bob carroll <
accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden" <jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, W3C WAI
ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date: 04/11/2014 07:09 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap
Many people on this list are accessibility professionals, so the
collective group of you are indeed one of the target audiences of the
IAAP. In fact, the first certification category that will be developed is
in the realm of digital accessibility, so right now you are the main
target audience. If the IAAP branches out later (that's not a given), then
it will be appropriate to engage with other similar professional groups in
those areas.
Paul Bohman, PhD
Director of Training
Deque Systems, Inc
www.deque.com
703-225-0380, ext.121
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:46 PM, <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>
wrote:
Joanne,
I agree with you that IAAP scope is beyond the scope of this list.
Tony
Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777
From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
To: "Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com" <
Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>,
Cc: "Lastort Joanne L [Contractor]" <Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov>, Bob
carroll <accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden" <jalbertbowden@gmail.com
>, Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>, W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date: 04/11/2014 02:26 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap
Perhaps then it is too broad to discuss on this list?
--
Jonnie Appleseed
with his
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
touching the internet
Reducing technologeyes' disabilities
one byte at a time
On Apr 11, 2014, at 14:13, Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com wrote:
Joanne,
WCAG only relates to web accessibility and not the many other aspects of
accessibility, which I assume IAAP will address and/or certify. It seems
the scope of IAAP is intended to be international and cover all aspects of
accessibility, which is a real challenge.
Tony
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Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777
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From: "Lastort Joanne L [Contractor]" <Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov>
To: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>, "
Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com" <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>,
Cc: Bob carroll <accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden" <
jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date: 04/10/2014 09:37 AM
Subject: RE: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap
Most countries are aligning themselves with WCAG 2.0 - even the US (at
least partially). That should help, if you're going to use any kind of
standard.
Thank you for your help,
Joanne Lastort
IT Specialist
508 Program Office (IRAP)
240-613-4681 (new)
TOD: 8am-4:30pm Eastern
IRAP Web site: http://irap.web.irs.gov
Please send all correspondence to *508 (508@irs.gov)
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bohman [mailto:paul.bohman@deque.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:32 AM
To: Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Cc: Bob carroll; J. Albert Bowden; W3C WAI ig
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap
Tony,
I agree that localization of laws is complex, but IAAP is international,
so we can't focus only on US laws.
Paul Bohman, PhD
Director of Training
Deque Systems, Inc
www.deque.com
703-225-0380, ext.121
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:31 PM, <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com> wrote:
Folks,
There is a wide variation between ADA, CVAA and other
international accessibility laws, which may not be harmonized. I suggest
IAAP should focus onto the U.S., since it may be too difficult to
encompass international certification.
Tony
Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777
From: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>
To: accessys@smart.net,
Cc: "J. Albert Bowden" <jalbertbowden@gmail.com>,
W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date: 04/08/2014 08:05 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification
roadmap
________________________________
IAAP certification is not specific to any law, such as the
ADA. It is for accessibility professionals in a variety of accessibility
disciplines. Similarly, the IAAP is an international organization, not
just for American laws.
It's also important to separate the concept of courses from
certification. The IAAP will offer a variety of educational resources and
opportunities which can impart the kind of knowledge necessary to pass
certification, but the certification itself is an assessment; a test. The
idea behind certification is to show that the individual has met a certain
level of expertise in the field, according to industry-accepted
competencies.
Paul Bohman, PhD
Director of Training
Deque Systems, Inc
www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/>
703-225-0380, ext.121 <tel:703-225-0380%2C%20ext.121>
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:55 PM, <accessys@smart.net <
mailto:accessys@smart.net> > wrote:
when I took the DoJ training back in 1992 they made it very
clear that there was going to be no accepted "Certification" for ADA, so
wonder how this sits with the DoJ position or has it changed???
and how will it relate to DoJ training courses??
Bob
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, J. Albert Bowden wrote:
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:47:40 -0400
From: J. Albert Bowden <jalbertbowden@gmail.com <
mailto:jalbertbowden@gmail.com> >
To: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com <
mailto:paul.bohman@deque.com> >
Cc: W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> >
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap
Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 23:48:09 +0000
Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
does it cost money to get certified?
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Paul Bohman <
paul.bohman@deque.com <mailto:paul.bohman@deque.com> > wrote:
Cross posted request for feedback:
The International Association of Accessibility
Professionals (IAAP) needs
your feedback on our roadmap for accessibility
certification. Here is the
roadmap as it stands now:
http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/content.asp?contentid=163 <
http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/content.asp?contentid=163>
We are still in the early stages of designing the
certification, so your
feedback is most valuable now, before we commit to a
certain path.
Here are some questions to consider as you read the
roadmap:
1. What do you think of the roadmap overall?
2. What would you do to improve our roadmap?
3. What do you think of the *levels* of certification
outlined in the
roadmap?
4. Are there any broad *Knowledge Domains and Roles*
that we have left
off that should be included?
5. Do you like our list of *Digital Accessibility* areas
of
certification? Should we add to or subtract from this
list? (For example,
one person commented that we should add gaming to the
list.)
6. Do you like the idea of certifying for these areas
separately, in a
modular approach as we have done? (See the section on
*Referencing
IAAP Credentials* for an explanation of how this might
work)
7. Do you like the 3 year period for certification?
Would you make it
shorter (2 years) or longer (5 years)?
8. What kind of certification assessment would you
create? Keep in
mind that it has to be a valid and meaningful test of
the right kind of
competencies, it must be challenging enough that novices
could not pass it
without first studying or gaining experience, it must
be scalable (not too
burdensome to administer or grade/score the assessment),
and translatable
into other languages.
9. Once certification becomes available, do you think
you would go
through the process to become certified? Why or why not?
10. What else should we consider as we move forward?
To give feedback, you can reply directly to this email, or
you can send an
email to the certification committee:
CC@accessibilityassociation.org <mailto:CC@accessibilityassociation.org>
Paul Bohman, PhD
Chair, IAAP Certification Committee
Director of Training
Deque Systems, Inc
www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/>
703-225-0380, ext.121 <tel:703-225-0380%2C%20ext.121>
--
J. Albert Bowden II
jalbertbowden@gmail.com <mailto:jalbertbowden@gmail.com>
http://bowdenweb.com/ <http://bowdenweb.com/>
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