Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap

Gregg,
Hey Gregg, what up? Long time no see.
I understand the WCAG 2.0 requirements, but, what about knowledge of 
PDF/UA, which you did not mention in you below email? 
Thanks.
Tony

Tony Jasionowski
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company 
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor 
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777






From:   CAE-Vanderhe <gregg@raisingthefloor.org>
To:     Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com, 
Cc:     "Lastort Joanne L [Contractor]" <Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov>, Bob 
carroll <accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden" 
<jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>, IG - WAI 
Interest Group List list <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date:   04/11/2014 08:22 PM
Subject:        Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap



WCAG is now used as the basis for Accessibility for:
- web content
- all electronic documents
- all electronic software (stand alone and software aspects of hardware)

it is cited as the rule set for both the new 508 Guidelines and new 255 
guidelines in the US, and the European Access standards for these three 
areas.

But I agree with Tony that the IAAP should be about accessibility and 
about helping people to understand how to (and increase skill for) 
increasing the accessibility and usability of all products ? and not just 
be about  Access Compliance. 

It should both help people to know how to ? and make it easier to ? make 
things accessible. 

Gregg



On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com wrote:

Joanne, 
WCAG only relates to web accessibility and not the many other aspects of 
accessibility, which I assume IAAP will address and/or certify. It seems 
the scope of IAAP is intended to be international and cover all aspects of 

accessibility, which is a real challenge. 
Tony 
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Tony Jasionowski 
Senior Group Manager Accessibility
Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company 
Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor 
Newark, NJ 07102
Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com 
Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777 

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From:        "Lastort Joanne L [Contractor]" <Joanne.L.Lastort@irs.gov> 
To:        Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com>, "
Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com" <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com>, 
Cc:        Bob carroll <accessys@smart.net>, "J. Albert Bowden" <
jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> 
Date:        04/10/2014 09:37 AM 
Subject:        RE: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap 



Most countries are aligning themselves with WCAG 2.0 - even the US (at 
least partially). That should help, if you're going to use any kind of 
standard.

Thank you for your help,

Joanne Lastort
IT Specialist
508 Program Office (IRAP) 
240-613-4681 (new)
TOD: 8am-4:30pm Eastern
IRAP Web site: http://irap.web.irs.gov
Please send all correspondence to *508 (508@irs.gov)


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bohman [mailto:paul.bohman@deque.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:32 AM
To: Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com
Cc: Bob carroll; J. Albert Bowden; W3C WAI ig
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification roadmap

Tony,

I agree that localization of laws is complex, but IAAP is international, 
so we can't focus only on US laws.



Paul Bohman, PhD
Director of Training
Deque Systems, Inc
www.deque.com
703-225-0380, ext.121



On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:31 PM, <Tony.Jasionowski@us.panasonic.com> wrote:


                Folks, 
                There is a wide variation between ADA, CVAA and other 
international accessibility laws, which may not be harmonized. I suggest 
IAAP should focus onto the U.S., since it may be too difficult to 
encompass international certification. 
                Tony 
 
                Tony Jasionowski 
                Senior Group Manager Accessibility
                Panasonic Consumer Electronics Company 
                Two Riverfront Plaza, 9th Floor 
                Newark, NJ 07102
                Email: tony.jasionowski@us.panasonic.com 
                Tel/Fax: 201-348-7777 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                From:        Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com> 
                To:        accessys@smart.net, 
                Cc:        "J. Albert Bowden" <jalbertbowden@gmail.com>, 
W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> 
                Date:        04/08/2014 08:05 PM 
 
                Subject:        Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification 

roadmap 
 
_________________________
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                IAAP certification is not specific to any law, such as the 

ADA. It is for accessibility professionals in a variety of accessibility 
disciplines. Similarly, the IAAP is an international organization, not 
just for American laws.
 
                It's also important to separate the concept of courses 
from certification. The IAAP will offer a variety of educational resources 

and opportunities which can impart the kind of knowledge necessary to pass 

certification, but the certification itself is an assessment; a test. The 
idea behind certification is to show that the individual has met a certain 

level of expertise in the field, according to industry-accepted 
competencies. 
 
 
                Paul Bohman, PhD
                Director of Training
                Deque Systems, Inc
                www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/> 
                703-225-0380, ext.121 <tel:703-225-0380%2C%20ext.121> 
 
 
                On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:55 PM, <accessys@smart.net <
mailto:accessys@smart.net> > wrote: 
 
                when I took the DoJ training back in 1992 they made it 
very clear that there was going to be no accepted "Certification" for ADA, 

so wonder how this sits with the DoJ position or has it changed???
 
                and how will it relate to DoJ training courses??
 
                Bob
 
                On Tue, 8 Apr 2014, J. Albert Bowden wrote:
 
                Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:47:40 -0400
                From: J. Albert Bowden <jalbertbowden@gmail.com <
mailto:jalbertbowden@gmail.com> >
                To: Paul Bohman <paul.bohman@deque.com <
mailto:paul.bohman@deque.com> >
                Cc: W3C WAI ig <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <
mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >
                Subject: Re: Seeking feedback on IAAP certification 
roadmap
                Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 23:48:09 +0000
                Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> 
 
 
                does it cost money to get certified?
 
 
 
                On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Paul Bohman <
paul.bohman@deque.com <mailto:paul.bohman@deque.com> > wrote:
 
                Cross posted request for feedback:
 
                The International Association of Accessibility 
Professionals (IAAP) needs
                your feedback on our roadmap for accessibility 
certification. Here is the
                roadmap as it stands now:
 
                
http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/content.asp?contentid=163 <
http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/content.asp?contentid=163> 
 
                We are still in the early stages of designing the 
certification, so your
                feedback is most valuable now, before we commit to a 
certain path.
 
                Here are some questions to consider as you read the 
roadmap:
 
                   1. What do you think of the roadmap overall?
                   2. What would you do to improve our roadmap?
                   3. What do you think of the *levels* of certification 
outlined in the
                   roadmap?
                   4. Are there any broad *Knowledge Domains and Roles* 
that we have left 
 
                   off that should be included? 
                   5. Do you like our list of *Digital Accessibility* 
areas of 
 
                   certification? Should we add to or subtract from this 
list? (For example,
                   one person commented that we should add gaming to the 
list.) 
                   6. Do you like the idea of certifying for these areas 
separately, in a
                   modular approach as we have done? (See the section on 
*Referencing
                   IAAP Credentials* for an explanation of how this might 
work)
                   7. Do you like the 3 year period for certification? 
Would you make it 
 
                   shorter (2 years) or longer (5 years)? 
                   8. What kind of certification assessment would you 
create? Keep in 
 
                   mind that it has to be a valid and meaningful test of 
the right kind of
                   competencies, it must be challenging enough that 
novices could not pass it
                   without first studying or gaining experience,  it must 
be scalable (not too
                   burdensome to administer or grade/score the 
assessment), and translatable
                   into other languages. 
                   9. Once certification becomes available, do you think 
you would go 
 
                   through the process to become certified? Why or why 
not? 
                   10. What else should we consider as we move forward? 
 
 
                To give feedback, you can reply directly to this email, or 

you can send an
                email to the certification committee: 
CC@accessibilityassociation.org <mailto:CC@accessibilityassociation.org> 
 
                Paul Bohman, PhD
                Chair, IAAP Certification Committee
                Director of Training
                Deque Systems, Inc
                www.deque.com <http://www.deque.com/> 
                703-225-0380, ext.121 <tel:703-225-0380%2C%20ext.121> 
 
 
 
 
                --
                J. Albert Bowden II
 
                jalbertbowden@gmail.com <mailto:jalbertbowden@gmail.com> 
 
                http://bowdenweb.com/ <http://bowdenweb.com/> 
 
 
 



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