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Re: Tables: Does scope="col" Stop When A Row Spans Multiple Columns?

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:36:12 -0400
Message-Id: <A002696B-1A15-4BBE-8D02-AA786D489233@ssbbartgroup.com>
Cc: "<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
To: Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au>
Screen readers and the HTML algorithm for determining headers do not stop when a spanned cell is encountered - they go to the top and left unless IDs and headers are used. 


On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:27 PM, "Roger Hudson" <rhudson@usability.com.au> wrote:

> Some years ago I checked how well several screen readers used scope and
> found with "rows" the results were not good, and only just OK with "col".
> Does anyone have any recent results of testing HTML data tables with screen
> readers, and in particular with complex tables that have more than one level
> of column and/or row headers?
> Thanks,
> Roger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duff Johnson [mailto:duff@duff-johnson.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 5:06 AM
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Tables: Does scope="col" Stop When A Row Spans Multiple
> Columns?
> Jim,
> - Headers with a scope of "col" are column headers
> - Headers with a scope of "row" are row headers
> - Cell can span rows or columns up to the maximum number of rows or columns
> in the table.
> If the table may be fully executed using the above you don't need to use
> IDs.
> Does that help?
> Duff.
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 2:02 PM, "Homme, James" <james.homme@highmark.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a table in which the heading cells all have scope="col", but the
> table has some rows that span across the whole table. What is the expected
> behavior for this situation? Should I consider using the headers and id
> attributes to get proper reading if something doesn't work?
>> Thanks.
>> Jim
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