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RE: Virtual Buffer Refresh

From: Greg Davies <GDavies@jackhenry.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:33:03 +0000
To: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <003F4D80BD2ADD459453D5115E53F0B101630075@MMOEX10MBS03.jhacorp.com>
Not the case.  Our controls never change roles.  A textbox is a textbox is a textbox.  Which makes me wonder, do we need to assign roles to each control?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:54 PM
To: Greg Davies; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Virtual Buffer Refresh

> .  The issue I am having is once the postback is complete, the screen
reader announces every subsequent input type as the same type as the control that changed originally to effect the postback.

One thing that I have learned from working with AT vendors is that controls should never change roles.  For example, a control that was a button should not become a checkbox.  AT and perhaps accessibility APIs do not handle that situation well.  I am not sure if that is what is occurring in your situation or not.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Davies [mailto:GDavies@jackhenry.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:41 PM
To: Jonathan Avila; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Virtual Buffer Refresh

Unfortunately I have already tried using the role="region"
aria-live="polite" and even added aria-atomic="true" with only limited success.  The issue I am having is once the postback is complete, the screen reader announces every subsequent input type as the same type as the control that changed originally to effect the postback.  If I do a "hard" refresh of the buffer from the keyboard (ins+esc) everything is fine.  I was hoping there was some way I could do a hard refresh using javascript or some combination of aria tags.

Greg Davies

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Avila [mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:14 PM
To: Greg Davies; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Virtual Buffer Refresh

> Does anyone have a way of refreshing the virtual buffer through either
ARIA tags, or javascript.  I can force a refresh

Use of aria-live regions or certain roles that are implicit live regions should work with ARIA supported assistive technologies and browsers.
Freedom Scientific also produced a tech support notice many years ago that listed many possible techniques.

Some of the techniques are listed on webAccessibility.com and include changing values in hidden input fields, removing and adding nodes in the DOM, and changing attributes on elements.

https://www.webaccessibility.com/best_practices.php?best_practice_id=968

Adding and removing nodes in the DOM is likely the best method.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Davies [mailto:GDavies@jackhenry.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:56 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Virtual Buffer Refresh

Everyone,

Does anyone have a way of refreshing the virtual buffer through either ARIA tags, or javascript.  I can force a refresh from the keyboard and that clears up the problem  but I have not been able to force a refresh through code.  I have tried aria-live but that solution is only partially successful.  Thank you in advance.

Greg Davies
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