- From: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:42:29 -0700
- To: "Ian Sharpe" <themanxsharpy@gmail.com>
- Cc: "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>, "'John Foliot'" <john@foliot.ca>, "'Steve Green'" <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>, "'Léonie Watson'" <tink@tink.co.uk>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
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"In short, I currently can't see how any existing techniques or technology can be applied to provide what I believe is a perfectly reasonable user experience for somebody using a screen reader to read a blog post with or without a "main" element." Ian, could you please provide a sample blog that we could refer to? Rather than commenting on an abstract blog, it would be much easier to have a real example around which we can create discussion. That said, I have a few comments about this thread. I think there is an unfortunate link made between "interesting" content and content designated as "main". The two things are not synonymous. One is a meta designator of the role of content, the other is a comment on the merit of the actual content. I can think an article is boring or of little value, but still agree it is the main content on a given page. While it can be risky to try to apply past knowledge to a new medium, I think a lot can be learned by thinking of web content from the context of an analog source, such as a newspaper. On the front page of a newspaper, there is a great deal of information. Every bit of it has a role (and historically designated name), be it a cutline, byline, banner, callout, slug, etc. These terms serve a useful purpose for anyone working on the paper, to help them discuss meta content (e.g., what will be the lead story?) Even if readers don't know the names of these pieces of information, each person has consumed newspapers enough to have a conscious or subconscious understanding of their purposes, and each person will have their own 'tactics' for consuming the newspaper, whether it is scanning the headlines, looking at the table of contents, or skipping to the editorial on page 4. Likewise, proper consistent designation of content on a web page allows users to interact with that content in a manner that is more beneficial for them. That is why I think that the main and other elements are going to become increasingly crucial to content creators. They allow for a level of content abstraction which allows for malleable presentation (on different devices) and manipulation by the end user. As accessibility matures, and becomes a consideration for designers and information architects as much as for developers, the means to abstract content with appropriate element designations is going to become more valuable and better adopted. In fact, even if they offered no other advantage (and I think they offer many) the generic landmark terms from ARIA (and their HTML 5 equivalents) offer a shared vocabulary which can be easily understood by anyone involved in web development. "Main" content in this context is an easy concept for people to understand, just as lead story is an easy concept in the newspaper world. Michael Gower i b m i n t e r a c t i v e gowerm@ca.ibm.com
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