- From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:28:39 -0500 (EST)
- To: Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org>
- cc: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi Harry, May I have your permission to share the below? it makes the distinction very clear indeed, and I am not sure if our list can be browsed by those seeking a broader understanding of use of wcag 2.0 Karen On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Harry Loots wrote: > Steve Green wrote: > > If Bell declare JavaScript to be part of their technology baseline, then >> the website does not need to work without JavaScript enabled. However, all >> the JavaScript features must be implemented in an accessible manner. >> > > This can be true, *only* if this solution was developed for sole use by a > company, using the solution in-house, who are also using browsers, and/or > AT that fully understand JavaScript, and all the functionality so provided > is accessible to all users. > > If however, this is a public website, where everyone has the right of > access and can expect to be treated equally, then if a user uses a browser > or AT that does not support JavaScript, and is thereby denied access to the > functionality offered via the scripting, then the site is not accessible. > Ergo, the site is non-compliant. > > The clause of "technology baseline" is not an escape clause. It was > provided to enable companies building in-house web-based solutions, where > they have full control over the browsers and AT to save on additional > development costs which may be required to make it accessible to all. > > > Kind regards > Harry > > > > On 13 December 2012 10:37, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Whether a user has JavaScript enabled or not is not an accessibility >> concern. >> A site that relies on Javascript for functionality is equally problematic >> for all users who do not have Javascript enabled. >> >> Whether the Javascript that is used is coded to provide the correct >> information and interaction behaviours is an accessibility concern. >> >> >> regards >> SteveF >> >> >> On 13 December 2012 07:52, David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>wrote: >> >>> Steve Green wrote: >>> >>> 3. If Bell declare JavaScript to be part of their technology >>>> >>> + baseline, then the website does not need to work without JavaScript >>> + enabled. However, all the JavaScript features must be implemented >>> + in an accessible manner. >>> >>>> >>>> There is no indication that this is a closed system. Being able to >>> declare a technology baseline sounds like a good way to avoid the nuisance >>> of WCAG, if it applies to the general internet. >>> >>> Note that there is an increasing community of users of ARM based systems >>> using the netsurf browser which has no scripting capability at all. That's >>> as well as those who have to block it for security policy reasons. >>> >>> >> >> >
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