- From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:18:17 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
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I believe this is another example of a requirement for the browser with or without the Assistive Technology (AT), not the web content author/developer responsibility alone. Some users want and need the "transparency" background common on many web sits today - not the assumed "opaque" background that was in place back in 2008 when WCAG 2.0 was finalized. Same UI technique (and issue or benefit) is used in television programming guides where you still see the TV show in the background via slightly transparent text on top. Some love it, some hate it, others find it critically beneficial while others see it as an absolute barrier. One size (contrast ratio) does not fit all here. The browser should have a user setting to make the transparency more (or less) transparent per the user's preference and needs, not some "majority rules" ratio. Visual usability improving cognition is conflicting with vision impairment needs. Of course this would NOT apply to authored content where the text is placed over an image at authoring time and saved as an image - this one size fits all approach is still under control of the author, not the browser. Again, I'm referring to the translucent so called "pop-ups" in the newer web 2.0 stile websites that use JavaScript and CSS. Measuring contrast ratios here does not make sense to me when the browser is (or should be) controlling the rendering, not the author/developer. ____________________________________________ Regards, Phill Jenkins, IBM Research - Human Ability & Accessibility Center http://www.ibm.com/able http://www.facebook.com/IBMAccessibility http://twitter.com/IBMAccess http://www.linkedin.com/in/philljenkins From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu> To: Lea Verou <lea@w3.org>, Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Date: 09/04/2012 04:54 PM Subject: Re: Color contrast of text on variable color background Since it is not good to post text over a pattern -- or photo -- the best would be either to not do it or to halo the text with white/very light. Gregg -------------------------------------------------------- Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. Director Trace R&D Center Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project http://Raisingthefloor.org --- http://GPII.net On Sep 4, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Lea Verou <lea@w3.org> wrote: Hi all, I was studying the color contrast section of WCAG 2.0 [1] and I observed that the algorithm presented assumes opaque colors. In modern web design, authors often want to place text over a variable color background, such as a photograph, a gradient or even shadows of the text itself. I was wondering how to calculate the contrast ratio for such use cases. One possible approach would be to take the minimum contrast that occurs. However, this could often be unnecessarily restrictive, as it might only occur in a small number of pixels that don’t hinder readability. Especially in the case of photographs, where practically every pixel has a different color. Another possible approach would be to take the average color and calculate the contrast ratio for that. However, this might yield many false positives. A simple example would be black text on a black & white checkerboard. Although the average background color is gray, which has an acceptable 5.3:1 ratio, the text would still be unreadable. It appears that there are multiple factors affecting the readability of text on such cases, so I'm not sure what kind of algorithm could be followed. Thoughts? [1]: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/#visual-audio-contrast-contrast Lea Verou W3C developer relations http://w3.org/people/all#lea ✿ http://lea.verou.me ✿ @leaverou
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