- From: Ian Yang <ian.html@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:38:42 +0800
- To: Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi Roger, thank you. It's glad to hear that it is regarded as informative. Ian 2012/6/28 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au>: > Thanks for the discussion Ian and Steve. > > > > Most interesting and informative. > > > > Roger > > > > From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2012 11:53 PM > To: Ian Yang > Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: Re: Is it okay to add role="tooltip" to static elements? > > > > Hi Ian, > > The text is not a tooltip, tooltips have particular properties associated > with them: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#tooltip > > Note: > > In IE if you use aria-labelledby with multiple id references or > aria-describedby with single or multiple id references, the referenced > elements must be what Microsoft terms as accessible HTML elements. So > tabindex=-1 would have to be added to the <p> refer to Making Non accessible > Elements Accessible > > > regards > Stevef > > On 27 June 2012 14:24, Ian Yang <ian.html@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > Yes, the example uses aria-describedby to associate the static < p > > element and the < input > field so the information will be announced > when the field receives focus. > > The issue which I'm trying to figure out is if adding role="tooltip" > to the static < p > element has bad effects on assistive technologies. > > Regards, > Ian > > 2012/6/27 Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>: > >> Hi Ian, >> >> I suggest its better to include the text within the label for the form >> field >> so the information will be announced when the field recieves focus: >> >> examples and details here: >> http://www.html5accessibility.com/tests/mulitple-labels.html >> >> regards >> steve >> >> >> On 27 June 2012 12:50, Ian Yang <ian.html@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Please take a look at this image ( >>> >>> >>> http://www.lessfussdesign.com/blog/http://www.lessfussdesign.com/images/blog/form-screen-2009-08-10.gif >>> ) which is taken from this blog page ( >>> >>> >>> http://www.lessfussdesign.com/blog/2010/08/using-aria-describedby-for-form-help-text/ >>> ). >>> >>> The image shows that there is a static description paragraph (< p > >>> element) below the password input field. In that case, is it okay to >>> add ARIA role="tooltip" to the static < p > element? >>> >>> In most web designs, tooltips are often designed as "popups" which are >>> triggered by mouse hover. However, if I understand it correctly, >>> "tooltip" literally means "tip of tool" and doesn't imply that a >>> tooltip must be a "popup" thing. So, can I add role="tooltip" to >>> elements which can be considered as "tip of tool", even if they are >>> static elements? (Just like the example above) By doing so, I feel >>> they are markup'ed more meaningfully, and we also get the benefit of >>> having styling hooks. >>> >>> I'm not sure whether adding role="tooltip" to static elements has >>> negative effects to assistive technologies or not. Is this idea >>> appropriate or inappropriate? >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Ian >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> with regards >> >> Steve Faulkner >> Technical Director - TPG >> >> www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | >> www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner >> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - >> dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ >> Web Accessibility Toolbar - >> www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html >> > > > > > -- > with regards > > Steve Faulkner > Technical Director - TPG > > www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | > www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner > HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - > dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ > Web Accessibility Toolbar - > www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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