- From: Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com>
- Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 16:03:59 +1000
- To: "'Vivienne CONWAY'" <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>
- Cc: "'W3C WAI-IG'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
HI Vivienne and all, Yes, I would say it fails SC2.4.1. And what we're really talking about, here, is what is commonly referred to as the header section. I have seen some sites that have a labyrinth of same page skip to links and those irritating back to top links that I would consider failing on the same criterion, too ;-) headings are indeed a mechanism for skipping blocks of content using navigation keys, but: 1. they are not necessarily repeated or repeated consistently across multiple pages (as per the sentiments of SC3.2.3) 2. the features of assistive technologies used to traverse headings can be disabled, modified, or not present (i.e., relied upon) 3. the purpose of headings is to organise content - it's a happy accident that they offer some navigational utility to some users in some situations - "Although this Success Criterion deals with blocks of content that are repeated on multiple pages, we also strongly promote structural mark-up on individual pages as per success criterion 1.3.1" http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-skip.html I guess this means, from a practical point of view, like every browser having a back button, all pages should have appropriate skip to links before the header section? I can already hear certain elements of the web development community groaning ... Cheers, Adam -----Original Message----- From: Vivienne CONWAY [mailto:v.conway@ecu.edu.au] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:28 PM To: Adam Cooper; 'Ramón Corominas' Cc: 'W3C WAI-IG' Subject: RE: Using Heading to Replace Skip Links Hi Adam and list That's brilliant advice Adam, thanks. Further question for you Adam. If you were assessing the WCAG 2 compliance of a website and there were no skip links, but an adequate heading structure, would you still say it fails 2.4.1.? Regards Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons), MACS CT PhD Candidate & Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A. Director, Web Key IT Pty Ltd. v.conway@ecu.edu.au v.conway@webkeyit.com Mob: 0415 383 673 This email is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately by return email or telephone and destroy the original message. ________________________________________ From: Adam Cooper [cooperad@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 11:15 AM To: 'Ramón Corominas'; Vivienne CONWAY Cc: 'W3C WAI-IG' Subject: RE: Using Heading to Replace Skip Links Hi Ramón and Vivienne, Some musings of an everyday screen reader user … For users dependent on a screen reader, every new page involves discovery. The almost innate relevance filtering available for visual users is a time-consuming and strategic process for screen reader users which is why navigational elements and meaningful structure is so important. So-called skip to links are useful for screen reader users, especially when there is only one or no headings on a page, when the header is content-rich, or when lumpy tables are used to layout headers and content, but navigating by ‘navigation keys’ through sufficient and meaningful headings is more efficient. One of the most irritating issues using navigation links with a screen reader can be the placement of destination anchors. While a mechanism for bypassing blocks of text is very useful, an efficient mechanism is more desirable, and, as a screen reader user, I’d prefer not to be fishing around with cursor keys to find the beginning of a block of content because a CMS or a developer has not placed an anchor immediately before relevant content. so, I broadly concur with Vivienne’s sentiment that “Frankly, I think it should be a requirement as we're wanting to make things better for people to get to the content, not more difficult.“ But I would add the following conditions: 1. Skip links must be the first elements on a page that accept focus 2. Skip links must be always visible 3. Skip links must always include link text that clearly identifies their purpose (I have seen on pages recently <li>Skip to: ><a href=”#navigation”>Navigation</a></li><li><a href=”#content”>Content</a></li>. Quite apart from the very common and equally irritating overuse of list elements to position content, I don’t believe the link purpose is clear.) 4. Skip to links must destinate immediately prior to relevant content 5. Avoid using the same name and id attribute values for destination anchors as this can result in a similar target vagueness with some screen readers in some situations Hope this helps, Adam -----Original Message----- From: Ramón Corominas [mailto:listas@ramoncorominas.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:13 PM To: Vivienne CONWAY Cc: W3C WAI-IG Subject: Re: Using Heading to Replace Skip Links Hi, Vivienne and all, SC 2.4.1 states: "2.4.1 Bypass Blocks: A mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on multiple Web pages. (Level A)" And "mechanism" is defined as "process or technique for achieving a result", with the following note: "Note 1: The mechanism may be explicitly provided in the content, or may be relied upon to be provided by either the platform or by user agents, including assistive technologies." So, in terms of conformance, headings *are* a mechanism that relies upon UA/AT support. In addition, I would consider if the meaning of "bypass blocks" is "bypass the tabs" or simply "bypass the content". Even if they cannot "skip tabs", Sighted people can simply look after the repeated content if the visual design remains the same among pages. For example, I can just press "down arrow" to read the page, and I am not obligued to read the menus before I can read the main title of an article, so visual consistency can be considered a "mechanism" (a technique) to achieve "visual bypass". And, for blind people, headings is enough. My 2 cents (wink) Ramón. Vivienne wrote: > I've been having some discussions with people as to whether using > Headings as per H69 can replace the use of skip links for Bypass Blocks (SC 2.4.1.). > > I would appreciate your consideration of this interpretation: > > "Headings can only replace skip links for screen reader users - they > don't benefit sighted keyboard-only users (e.g. Prof Hawking) and low vision users using screen magnifiers, for whom skip links work much better (because they don't have shortcut keys to navigate headings). > > Although H69 mentions Opera supports navigation by headings - it's > turned off by default and requires a hidden option to turn back on > > http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-skip.h > tml > > Techniques and Failures for Success Criterion 2.4.1 - Bypass Blocks > > Each numbered item in this section represents a technique or > combination of techniques that the WCAG Working Group deems sufficient for meeting this Success Criterion. The techniques listed only satisfy the Success Criterion if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements have been met. > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#conformance-reqs > Conformance Requirements > > 4. Only Accessibility-Supported Ways of Using Technologies: Only accessibility-supported ways of using technologies are relied upon to satisfy the success criteria. Any information or functionality that is provided in a way that is not accessibility supported is also available in a way that is accessibility supported. (See Understanding accessibility support.) > > http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#accessibility-supported > def > > accessibility supported > > The way that the Web content technology is used must be supported by users' assistive technology (AT) > > > > Taken together, my interpretation is you can’t use headings alone to > claim conformance with 2.4.1 since they bypass blocks in screen readers but not other assistive technology (e.g. screen magnifiers, switches, voice recognition etc.). It looks the conformance requirements are designed to provide a safety net for cases like this." This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose or use the information contained within. If you have received it in error please return it to the sender via reply e-mail and delete any record of it from your system. 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