- From: Bailey, Bruce <Bailey@Access-Board.gov>
- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:07:48 -0500
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: "Arch, Andrew" <Andrew.Arch@finance.gov.au>, <mpiazza@ig.com.br>, "508" <508@Access-Board.gov>
Ditto what others said, especially that URL Andrew provided, but I want to quote a bit from the Understanding document. (Echoes of this are in the WCAG 2.0 Abstract and Introduction sections as well.) It is quite incorrect to assume "testable" means "machine testable". From: http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/intro.html#introduction-layers -head All WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria are written as testable criteria for objectively determining if content satisfies the Success Criteria. While some of the testing can be automated using software evaluation programs, others require human testers for part or all of the test... Professional reviews utilizing recognized qualitative heuristics are important in achieving accessibility for some audiences... The content should be tested by those [Humans!] who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web. -----Original Message----- From: Arch, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Arch@finance.gov.au] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:54 PM To: mpiazza@ig.com.br; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: RE: Who can say that a web page is accessible according to wcag? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi Marcello, Richard is right - while tools are a good starting point, you can't rely on them to tell you if a website is accessible. A good place to start learning about accessibility evaluation is "Evaluating Websites for Accessibility: Overview" and the other documents at http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/Overview.html Good luck with the Masters. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Userite [mailto:richard@userite.com] Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 8:32 PM To: mpiazza@ig.com.br; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Who can say that a web page is accessible according to wcag? Hi Marcello, No tool can tell you if a website is fully accessible. For example a non-human "tool" cannot say if link text, alternative text or heading text is meaningful or just gibberish. A human being needs to check these in person. A tool such as Wave and CynthiaSays ( or Bobby - if you can find a copy) is a good starting point and will save you time, but you need a human to obtain a complete picture of compliance. There are commercial firms (such as ours) who will do it for you, but if you are doing a master thesis it might be a good idea if you learnt to do it yourself. It is a fascinating exercise. Best wishes Richard richard.warren@userite.com -----Original Message----- From: Marcelo Piazza Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:07 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Who can say that a web page is accessible according to wcag? Hello all! I'm writing a master thesis about e-commerce and accessibility. At this moment I need to evaluate a set of pages and assure that they are accessible according to WCAG 2.0 level A with sufficient techniques only (http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/). I found some tools show me accessibility errors (Wave, Total Validator, Juicy, FAE, AChecker), but none of them says that a page conforms to certain accessibility level. So I have two questions: - How can I say that a site (or a web page) does really conforms to WCAG 2.0? - Does exist a tool or an institution that evaluates a site and assures some kind of conformance to accessibility requirements (like wcag)? Thank you! Marcelo Alberto Piazza ________________________________ Finance Australian Business Number (ABN): 61 970 632 495 Finance Web Site: www.finance.gov.au IMPORTANT: This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone on 61-2-6215-2222 and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. If responding to this email, please send to the appropriate person using the suffix .gov.au. ________________________________
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