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Re: Screen Reader Programs

From: Cliff Tyllick <cliff.tyllick@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0800 (PST)
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To: "<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
The main reason not to use the 40-minute demo version of JAWS for testing is that to do so violates the end user license agreement. 

I suspect Adam merely intended to let James know that he could use a demo to get an idea of what JAWS can and cannot do.

That's within the conditions of the EULA. I'm sure that using the demo to show others how JAWS works would also be acceptable.

Best regards,


 From: Ramón Corominas <listas@ramoncorominas.com>
To: "<judy@accessibilityexperts.ca>" <judy@accessibilityexperts.ca> 
Cc: "<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Screen Reader Programs

That sounds a bit strange, in theory the demo version is exactly the same as the full one, except for the 40-minutes limit (indeed, my current licensed cooy was originally a demo downloaded from FS site and later activated).

I've used the demo version many times in training sessions to show its usage, and of course it is possible to access the headings/links/form controls listings. Maybe your client used a different browser, or the keyboard focus was outside the content...


Judy said:
to keep in mind is that the demo / free version of JAWS do not have all
features of the full version available. We have a person who uses JAWS on a daily
basis test our websites and have found that it is the best. 
of our clients actually had the free version and was using to test their
website.  We were testing their intranet using the demo / free version of
JAWS and the person who uses JAWS on a regular basis could not access the same
functionalities as in her full version, such as her heading list or link list.
Experts Ltd.
>From:Adam Cooper
>Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 5:08 PM
>To: 'Liz Hunter'; 'Carter, James Edward Dawkins - carte3je'
>Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>Subject: RE: Screen Reader Programs
Non-Visual Desktop Application (NVDA) at http://www.nvda-project.org/
it’s free and probably the most standards compliant screen reader
try JAWS at http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp 
– there’s a free forty minute demo version available.
better still, find some people who use a screen reader every day, build some
test cases, and get them to test your site ...
>From:Liz Hunter [mailto:lduncan@siu.edu] 
>Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:34 AM
>To: Carter, James Edward Dawkins - carte3je
>Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>Subject: Re: Screen Reader Programs
>ChromeVox for
Google Chrome is free and works fairly well. I'm not sure how it rates but I
use it to test all of my sites.
>Web Specialist
>P: 618/453-2820
>On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Carter,
James Edward Dawkins - carte3je <carte3je@jmu.edu>
>Can I get some recommendations for Screen
Readers that you guys use for testing web pages please.
>Many thanks
>James Carter
>Web Developer
>University Marketing
>(540) 568-5606
Received on Monday, 12 December 2011 06:35:48 UTC

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