- From: Ramón Corominas <listas@ramoncorominas.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:46:58 +0100
- To: G F Mueden <gfmueden@verizon.net>
- Cc: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
I must say in my defense that I did not change anything in my e-mail client (I sent it from my iPad, where I cannot change anything). In fact, I think that the line-spacing problem comes from pasting directly from WCAG documents. I myself have low vision and have sadly discovered that my message was unreadable with my default choice of font size, showing a real example of the kind of things SC 1.4.4 tries to avoid. I apologise for this, and will take into account in the future and avoid pasting directly from Web pages. Kind regards, Ramón. G F Mueden warned: > I could not read Ramon Corominas's emai until I swithed to read in plain > text. > On the other hand, that from GregVanderheiden enabled my choice of font and > was easy to read. > This is a fine example of why I am here. I get forty emails a day andonly a > half dozen disable my accessibility settings. That it should happen here is > a bit like the shoemakers child ging barefoot. > > The most frequet offenderd ar thw White House,the VA and the US Access Bd. > Hubris? > > Replying to RC's message even disabled my choice of font for sending. It is > too hard for me to resd and catch my errors. > > My file, "Accessibility for Eye Readers" 11K, is available as an email > attachment on request to gfmueden@verizon.net > > Most eye readers need only two fixes in their software > > For poor acuity we need magnification with word wrad > For poor contrast sensitivity we need choice of font for incoming text. > We pray you our masters, with your formatting, don't disable these settings. > > Be of good cheer. G F Mueden ==gm=== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ramón Corominas" <listas@ramoncorominas.com> > To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: Success criteria 1.4.4 > > > Hi all! > > While re-reading this thread, I noticed this sentence from Felix: > > "One need only raise the size of a 16px font to about 22.4px to get a > doubling of size. A doubling of a CSS "size" produces an nominal _size_ > increase of 400%." > > This seems to consider "size" as the *area* of the block of text, which > would imply that an "increase of 200%" means "original font-height * > sqrt(2)"; but according to the Understanding SC 1.4.4 document: > > "Content satisfies the Success Criterion if it can be scaled up to 200%, > that is, up to twice the width and height." > > I've always interpreted that 200% means "original font-size * 2", but some > customers use the "area" argument to reduce the impact of this requirement > on their CSS, because "size" is not explicitly defined in the WCAG's main > document. > > On the other hand, the Understanding document also says: > > "The author cannot rely on the user agent to satisfy this Success Criterion > for HTML content if users do not have access to a user agent with zoom > support. For example, if they work in an environment that requires them to > use IE 6 or Firefox." > > This may suggest that, for a *global* scenario (where we cannot guarantee > what UA is used), using absolute units for text size can be considered a > failure of SC 1.4.4. But then it would be very easy for the WAI WG to > include a Common Failure in the Techniques document saying that absolute > units are not valid. > > I've alwayd interpreted that the absence of such faikure in WCAG 2.0 means > that absolute units are not strictly prohibited, unless they cause > overlapping/hidden content (F69, for example). > > My concern is that, if I consider the Understanding as an "informative only" > document, then the 200% is still subject to interpretation; but if I > consider the 200% definition in the Understanding as *the* -mandatory- > definition, then the absolute units shoukd also be considered as a direct > failure. > > What do you think? > > Regards, > Ramón. > > > Felix wrote: > >> One need only raise the size of a 16px font to about 22.4px to get a >> doubling of size. A doubling of a CSS "size" produces an nominal _size_ >> increase of 400%. > >
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