- From: Lucica Ibanescu <lucica.ibanescu@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 01:25:11 +0100
- To: "'Ian Sharpe'" <iansharpe@manx.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4cdc8965.9059d80a.02f9.7ea3@mx.google.com>
Hi Ian, I was curious if you started to play with this concept already and if you have it hosted on a public server so I can take a look with NVDA. I am really new to ARIA but I am curious if it works as you expect it or not. For example you have a list of elements * element 1 el1.description hidden with CSS * element 2 el2.description hidden that appears on pressing D and it's a active region aria-live="assertive" * element 3 el3.description hidden with CSS As long as the user doesn't press any key the AT reads the entire list. When D is pressed the description is alive and the AT reads it. Then what happens? Does it move to element 3 being the next one in the markup? Does it wait for the user's intervention because it cannot move on? Let me know what you did, Lush _____ From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ian Sharpe Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:06 AM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Using ARIA to control screen readers Hi I want to provide additional contextual information about the HTML element currently being voiced by a screen reader if the user presses a key as it reads through the content on a page. For example, the page might contain a list of used cars for sale and as this list is being read by a screen reader, I want the user to be able to press a key, say 'd', and have the screen reader read a description of that particular car before continuing reading through the list. I know I could simply include the description in the visible content and the screen reader would read this out, but there may be many cars in the list and do not want the user to have to keep skipping the descriptions of cars they may not be interested in. I do not know of any way of finding out which element the screen reader is currently reading at the time the user hits a key. I would be very interested to hear if anyone thinks this may be possible and how to achieve it. I have been looking at ARIA and thought it may be possible to loop through the elements on the page and update the content of an aria-live region as it progresses. But this wouldn't wait until the screen reader had finished reading the content of the live region before updating it with the new content and you would probably only hear the first and last elements read aloud. I believe that some screen readers may focus the element being spoken in certain modes which could then be used to determine the element being spoken but suspect this will not work for all screen readers and may require the user to switch to a particular reading mode that moves focus with speech. It would be straight forward to simply require the user to press a key to move to the next element and update a live region at the same time and leave the control to the user, but this would require the user to manually press a key to move through the list rather than simply sit back, listen, and only interract when they want to now more. It's a minor inconvenience and suspect wouldn't be a big issue for most screen reader users but thought I'd ask anyway. To be able to do something based on what is being read, as it is being read, would seem like a useful thing to do as well more generally. Maybe this is something more for AT though. I'm currently using NVDA to test this concept if it makes any difference. Thanks in advance. Cheers Ian
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